Okay here we so go ISIS Using Underground Tactics To Avoid US Airstrikes
<http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/10/06/isis-reportedly-goes-underground-as-activists-dispute-airstrikes-effectiveness/>
EM
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Subject: RE: {UAH} Qatar and Saudi Arabia 'have ignited time bomb by funding
global spread of radical Islam' - Telegraph
Ocen Nekyon
Blame what you want but this writing comes very close to common sense and I am
glad you posted it. The only solution to this problem is diplomacy. And we lost
that the very day Obama stood up to declare how he is going to blow up the crap
out of every one. This is a war that should have been fought by Secretary of
state and going into these countries and holding serious talks with them. You
need to talk to The Saudis, you need to talk to Turkey, you need to talk to
Qatar, you need to talk to Jordan but you need to talk to Iran and a certain
point to Russia and probably China. When you all agree on the path to take you
also agree to lose some and win some. After you talk to all of these people you
turn around and throw the agreements to an organization like The UN for
implementation. Then you can have a hope in God’s green grass to manage ISIS.
The moment Obama stood up and declared to bomb every one, that is when ISIS won
the war. For bottom-line every one that claims to fight with us is a friend of
ISIS. And a good example is Turkey, whose side is Turkey on? They have declared
to fight ISIS so why have they allowed ISIS to raise its flag in a Turkey city
from yesterday? That means that even though Turkey claims to join the coalition
it is supporting and defending ISIS. Now take all that reasoning through the
Moslem world, do you really think The Saudis can go after ISIS? It is an
organization so armed to the teeth and with a whack of cash. You have no way to
beat them and you have no way to protect the Iraqi army. Cities are falling
left and center, we might as well accept them as a state and we so move on for
the rest of Iraqis are scared the crap out of them. But we refused to talk and
we refused to use diplomacy we have a dead foreign policy and we are thinking
in fighting from the skies. And why are many European countries refusing to
send in their air crafts? What is it they know that we don’t? These are very
serious fighters that we cannot even beat with boots on ground, they want to
create a state and we can save more lives by accepting that and look for a new
chapter.
I have walked through all Arab countries the administration is lining up in the
coalition and I fear if they really are out to go after ISIS.
EM
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Subject: {UAH} Qatar and Saudi Arabia 'have ignited time bomb by funding global
spread of radical Islam' - Telegraph
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/11140860/Qatar-and-Saudi-Arabia-have-ignited-time-bomb-by-funding-global-spread-of-radical-Islam.html
Qatar and Saudi Arabia 'have ignited time bomb by funding global spread of
radical Islam'
"This is a time bomb that, under the guise of education, Wahhabi Salafism is
igniting under the world really. And it is funded by Saudi and Qatari money and
that must stop," said Gen Shaw. "And the question then is 'does bombing people
over there really tackle that?' I don't think so. I'd far rather see a much
stronger handle on the ideological battle rather than the physical battle."
Gen Shaw, 57, retired from the Army after a 31-year career that saw him lead a
platoon of paratroopers in the Battle of Mount Longdon, the bloodiest clash of
the Falklands War, and oversee Britain's withdrawal from Basra in southern
Iraq. As Assistant Chief of the Defence Staff, he specialised in
counter-terrorism and security policy.
All this has made him acutely aware of the limitations of what force can
achieve. He believes that Isil can only be defeated by political and
ideological means. Western air strikes in Iraq and Syria will, in his view,
achieve nothing except temporary tactical success.
When it comes to waging that ideological struggle, Qatar and Saudi Arabia are
pivotal. "The root problem is that those two countries are the only two
countries in the world where Wahhabi Salafism is the state religion – and Isil
is a violent expression of Wahabist Salafism," said Gen Shaw.
"The primary threat of Isil is not to us in the West: it's to Saudi Arabia and
also to the other Gulf states."
Both Qatar and Saudi Arabia are playing small parts in the air campaign against
Isil, contributing two and four jet fighters respectively. But Gen Shaw said
they "should be in the forefront" and, above all, leading an ideological
counter-revolution against Isil.
The British and American air campaign would not "stop the support of people in
Qatar and Saudi Arabia for this kind of activity," added Gen Shaw. "It's
missing the point. It might, if it works, solve the immediate tactical problem.
It's not addressing the fundamental problem of Wahhabi Salafism as a culture
and a creed, which has got out of control and is still the ideological basis of
Isil – and which will continue to exist even if we stop their advance in Iraq."
Gen Shaw said the Government's approach towards Isil was fundamentally
mistaken. "People are still treating this as a military problem, which is in my
view to misconceive the problem," he added. "My systemic worry is that we're
repeating the mistakes that we made in Afghanistan and Iraq: putting the
military far too up front and centre in our response to the threat without
addressing the fundamental political question and the causes. The danger is
that yet again we're taking a symptomatic treatment not a causal one."
Gen Shaw said that Isil's main focus was on toppling the established regimes of
the Middle East, not striking Western targets. He questioned whether Isil's
murder of two British and two American hostages was sufficient justification
for the campaign.
"Isil made their big incursion into Iraq in June. The West did nothing, despite
thousands of people being killed," said Gen Shaw. "What's changed in the last
month? Beheadings on TV of Westerners. And that has led us to suddenly change
our policy and suddenly launch air attacks."
He believes that Isil might have murdered the hostages in order to provoke a
military response from America and Britain which could then be portrayed as a
Christian assault on Islam. "What possible advantage is there to Isil of
bringing us into this campaign?" asked Gen Shaw. "Answer: to unite the Muslim
world against the Christian world. We played into their hands. We've done what
they wanted us to do."
However, Gen Shaw's analysis is open to question. Even if they had the will,
the rulers of Saudi Arabia and Qatar may be incapable of leading an ideological
struggle against Isil. King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia is 91 and only
sporadically active. His chosen successor, Crown Prince Salman, is 78 and
already believed to be declining into senility. The kingdom's ossified
leadership is likely to be paralysed for the foreseeable future.
Meanwhile in Qatar, the new Emir, Tamim bin Hamad al-Thani, is only 34 in a
region that respects age. Whether this Harrow and Sandhurst-educated ruler has
the personal authority to lead an ideological counter-revolution within Islam
is doubtful.
Given that Saudi Arabia and Qatar almost certainly cannot do what Gen Shaw
believes to be necessary, the West may have no option except to take military
action against Isil with the aim of reducing, if not eliminating, the terrorist
threat.
"I just have a horrible feeling that we're making things worse. We're entering
into this in a way we just don't understand," said Gen Shaw. "I'm against the
principle of us attacking without a clear political plan."
Qatar and Saudi Arabia 'have ignited time bomb by funding global spread of
radical Islam' - Telegraph
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/11140860/Qatar-and-Saudi-Arabia-have-ignited-time-bomb-by-funding-global-spread-of-radical-Islam.html
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