Frank Mujabi
There are some interesting facts that you need to know in the responses of
Ocen Nekyon and those that sat in Tanzania to plan the deaths of our people in
the 1970s. It is also very important to note that it has become fashionable
these days for many of them as Peter Gwokto to publicly issue death threats
against me following George Okello's similar death threat whenever I mention
crimes committed by his fellow countrymen. Ironically, we are talking about the
killings of Ugandans by Acholi and here we are, the same people acknowledging
their deeds openly. What can be closer to the truth than when the truth is
endorsed by one or more persons from the tribe being discussed. And I will take
a moment to highlight the violence embedded into the people that have been
running our country all along as an example. These are two statements that have
been made today 11/05/2014 in UAH by two separate UPC members {a} I have a
solution to eradicate Africa of these dictators: firing squad. Just capture one
and tie him to the post in a public square, and the Museveni’s and Mugabe’s
will be handing over power within a few days. -Edward Pojim {b} “Problem is
those captured and lynched like Playboys Gadhajji and aSm Doe were executed
kichinichini, kimoyomoyo. They should be shot down in a public MARKET nut
nevertheless, Gadhaffi's bloodied face and haggard look, matter of fact, sent
shivers down the spines of Museveni and Mugabe - big time. And for a few days,
Museveni actually went underground - for no serious reasons other than the fear
of Gadhaffi's fate.” –Gwokto. On record these are two UPC members that are even
out of Uganda and have lived in democratic societies all their lives since
departing Uganda, yet the brutality they held in Uganda still energizes them to
thus far.
Now let us critique Ocen Nekyon’s writing. We had a problem with two
countries, Kenya and Tanzania, Baganda killers like Andrew Kayiira and Robert
Sserumaga used Kenya, Acholi and Langi killers used Tanzania without mentioning
Owiny Kibul which was more of a short training center and exit point. Tanzania
and Kenya are important because they were the exporting points of Weapons
smuggled into Uganda for the slaughter of innocent Ugandans who had no role
what so ever in the struggle for power between Obote and Amin. The weapons
that arrived via Okot Y Y ended up at Luwumu’s residence, residence of a man
people believed to be of God and rested their hopes and faith in and thought
would not break any of the Ten Commandments. It is true religious leaders
around the world have stood up to fight for equality and called for an end of
violence and abuse of human rights. But they do not do that by smuggling in
guns to kill the same people for whose right and equality they are fighting. I
do not blame Kenya but blame those who used its soil to terrorize and kill
Ugandans on tribal basis. After all following the coup of 1971, Kenya
recognized Amin, by stating that Kenya's policy recognizes countries and not
individual leaders, a policy quite different from the one Tanzania under
Nyerere entertained then. Nyerere was more interested in Obote than Uganda
since they shared the same Communist Manifesto and ideology.
Unfortunately for Nyerere blinded by his Ujamaa ideal, he had no time to
understand the behavior of Acholi in particular and Langi in general. By
nature, the Acholi are very envious people who hate to see other people
succeed. Had he known these people earlier, he would not have given them refuge
and to use his soil to destroy their own. He knew them late after his troops
fought side by side with them. Their interest and intent to kill frightened
Nyerere so much that when Obote was overthrown for the second time, he could
not accommodate him, that is why he ended up in Zambia. It was the first time
Nyerere realized that Acholi were the bad guys not anyanya, not Banubi nor West
Nilers as he was led to believe.
But here is the most interesting part of those that were in Tanzania as Ocen
Nekyon. Iddi Amin’s government left power very many years ago, so this
discussion is just to put our history on record. There is no personal gain
here. But the stupidity of these people is that to today they have failed or
refused to write the history about that war. Ocen Nekyon is standing before you
today to preach that when he was in Tanzania, in the 70’s there were no weapons
exported to Uganda. He also states that there were no weapons exported to
Uganda from Kenya. And any one stating that weapons were exported to Uganda to
destabilize Iddi Amin’s government is a liar. He is also stating that they
never murdered any one in Uganda to blame Amin. Everything you hear about
Luwumu, Okot Y Y and the weapons was an imagination of Amin. When push comes to
shove he stands up and states how he knows the history of Uganda but he rather
not say but wakes up to go after any one that dares write it. What history does
this man know when he even has no clue that a place such as the LADU Enclave
existed especially when Germans briefly controlled part of Yei River District
in Equatoria region of South Sudan. It is therefore important for you to listen
to what Okuozi is saying. South Sudan, North Eastern Congo and Northern Uganda
(West Nile) were supposed to be one country. And one day it might end up that
way if you listen very carefully to what the people of LADU are saying.
Here is the problem you have as Ugandans, the Ocen Nekyon’s screwed up in
Tanzania that from get go everything failed. When they arrived in Uganda they
did not only murder other Ugandans but murdered themselves too. On record
Acholis and Langis have murdered each other than Amin and Museveni combined
killed them. Kony is the classic example who behaves like Boku Haram kidnapping
schools girls (Aboke case). Who killed Odong Nayenda? Was it state research?
Heck no it was fellow Acholis. And the time Nyerere refused them to go to West
Nile they spent it killing other Ugandans including fellow Acholis and Langis.
More than half of those that came out of TZ are dead today either for they
murdered each other or are dead due to age and sheer poverty. The remnants as
Ocen Nekyon are in exile for they know if they return into Uganda their fellow
Langis will murder them. Or explain to me why Acholis and Langis that were not
in Tanzania are today eating out of Museveni but Ocen Nekyon simply cannot step
into Uganda. I opposed Museveni, I opposed NRA into Luwero, I rejected Museveni
from get go, but Ocen supported him all along from Tanzania to peace talks to
swearing in Kampala, how do we both end up in same diaspora? Because I am
running from Museveni and he is running from fellow Acholi and Langi’s.
Then the question becomes, if weapons were not being sent to Uganda to sabotage
the government, if people were not murdered to spoil Amin’s government, if
Acholis and Langis never left Uganda amass to Bukoba to train as bandits that
came back to fight, If Jonan Luwum and Okot Y Y never imported weapons into
Uganda, can Ocen Nekyon respond to two questions {a} Why was UNLF mainly
commanded but composed of Acholis and Langis? And {b} Why did Amin’s government
fall and those from Tanzania took power, was that a sheer Langi/Acholi
coincidence?
There has to be a point and we agree on what the heck is considered The
down-town Tororo sir?
EM
On the 49th Parallel
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika
machafuko"
From: [email protected]
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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Moses Ocen Nekyon
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 9:55 PM
To: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: {UAH} HOW MANY ACHOLIS and LANGIS ARE BiDDING M7s RULE or ARE M7's
POODLE
Frank;
As earlier promised I am going to try and answer your questions.
First of all this topic although changing was introduced by an author who
Clearly does not know what he is talking about.
The idea that Acholi and Langi are responsible for most of the political up
veal in Uganda is as idiotic an idea as the author himself.
He presented "facts" whose origins are questionable as himself. For example the
case of a container "Full of arms' imported from Tanzania."
Somehow the importation of the container was authorized by an Act of parliament
that did not exist and through Malaba border which is located between Kenya and
Uganda and not Tanzania.
Those are solid facts and proof by the said gentleman. Why is it important for
one to note these discrepancies?
My question to the Chaka's of the world is; if one is able to play "loose" with
the facts about such serious topics, it puts into question everything else he
has written about.
As for your direct question about Luo's in the Army; there is nothing unique
about their existence in every version of the Uganda Armed forces, be it UA,
UNLA, NRA or UPDF.
If you studied all the Armies of East Africa, certain tribes predominate the
Armed Forces; in Kenya it is the Somali, Kamba and the Maasai who make up the
ranks. In Tanzania; inspite of great lengths being taken to assure regional
balance, tribes from the Mwanza and Musoma areas where the Zanaki's, Kuria and
Kara reside provided a great deal of footmen in the Security services. Others
are the Maasai again and Wanyamwezi from the Western side of Tanzania.
In Nigeria the Fulani/Hausa and Middle belt states provide the bulk of the
Nigerian Armed forces.
For you and your friends who want "rectify" the situation, all I will say is
good luck.
No single tribe can determine Uganda's destiny on it's own because alliances
are required to ascend to power.
If you and your friends think they can do it on your own, good luck.
Ocen
Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
From: Frank Mujabi
Sent: Monday, November 3, 2014 17:02
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Subject: Re: {UAH} HOW MANY ACHOLIS and LANGIS ARE BiDDING M7s RULE or ARE M7's
POODLE
Ocen
It is obvious in Uganda today that M7's dictatorship is manned by Ankole/
Kigezi/ Rwanda and Northerners especially Luo's.
What they all have in common is that M7 has accorded them an opportunity
to occupy and colonise Buganda, something they all want.
This is fully noted by those who have
to rectify it.
Sent from my iPhone
On 3 Nov 2014, at 23:27, Moses Ocen Nekyon <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
Pojim;
Chaka is trying to forget what he has previously written.
Ocen
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From: 'edward pojim' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community
Sent: Monday, November 3, 2014 15:24
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Subject: Re: {UAH} HOW MANY ACHOLIS and LANGIS ARE BiDDING M7s RULE or ARE M7's
POODLE
Chaka;
In an attempt to acquit yourself, you present all evidence of haters: Mbu, my
best friend is from Lira, so how can I be a Lango hater! Racists, especially
in US, use similar language: my best friend or bodyguard or chef is black, so I
can't possibly hate blacks!
Also, it's obvious from your question that you do not know the history
relationship between Jews and Hitler, or, go deeper, the authors and editors of
the Workers Party newspaper and its Manifesto.
Pojim
On Monday, November 3, 2014 12:07 PM, 'chaka Jay' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH)
Community <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
Pojim:
I don't hate any Acholi or Langi. To be on record, have many friends from that
region, actually my best buddy in high-school in Wales UK is from Lira. On that
point, I consider M7 with absolute contempt. I rememebr I visit Uganda and I
passed by Atiak, man the utter canage his goverment did can never be forgiven.
I still can not fathom anyone from that region to work with M7 and become a
poodle of his..
Just image "Did the Jews worked with Hitler? Just close your eyes and thing a
second..
-Chaka
On Monday, November 3, 2014 1:44 PM, 'edward pojim' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH)
Community <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
Chaka;
I see dangerous anti-Acholi streaks in you and my namesake, Edward Mulindwa.
While I do not know your background, Mr. Mulindwa has let us on his intimate
association with the Amin regime, to the point that he was present at the scene
when Archbishop Luwum and ministers, Erinayo Oryema and Oboth-Ofumbi were
assassinated.
Mr. Mulindwa recently told us here that it was he who placed the first
telephone call to the family of Minister Oryema, notifying them about his
death.
So, given such an up-close-and-personal relation with Amin, I would consider
Mr. Mulindwa an Amin henchman, and therefore, an avid defender of Idi Amin.
It's only logical then, that Mr. Mulindwa would find every reason to attack
Amin's detractors, especially those who posed the greatest threat to Amin rule;
the Acholis.
He does not see, in post-Amin era, any Acholi worth his commendation. I find
that to be an obsessive hatred of an entire people, and I condemn it without
reservations.
And here you are, singling out the deputy Speaker for condemnation, simply
because he serves or served under President Museveni, who you call a killer of
Acholi/Langi people. I think you would rather Acholi and Lango folks boycott
the Museveni regime en masse, turn down every single appointment offered them.
If that is your wish, it's thoughtless and juvenile.
I've said this before and it's worth repeating: no single Ugandan president has
been without blame for loss of lives, destruction of property or major
corruption.
While thousands of Ugandans died during Idi Amin's era, I maintain that Amin
did not kill 300,000 people that we keep hearing about; but he did some
killings. Same thing with Obote, and Museveni.
By the same token, it does not help anyone for Mr. Mulindwa to launch a brazen,
callous campaign to sanitize or deny Amin's atrocities. Or for you to fault
Mr. Oulanya for being elected deputy Speaker, simply because Museveni has
killed thousands of Acholis.
Our history is checkered and bloody; let's be rational when appropriating
blames, or seeking out solutions so that we don't repeat it for the next
generation.
Pojim
On Monday, November 3, 2014 9:26 AM, 'chaka Jay' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH)
Community <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
Can anyone list major contributors of Acholis and Langis (MPs, Army officers)
bidding M7 rule.... or are M7 poodle
One major M7 poodle is the deputy speaker.. It just pullzes me that M7 killed
so many Acholis/Langi's, and yet this guys are bidding for his rule..
-Chaka
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