By the way let me get very clear here, it does not matter to me what tribe
heads it all I need is a change of Uganda entire education from producing
George Okellos to educated Ugandans. At the rate we are heading we are going to
have half the country qualified as Lawyers.
May be that is not a good idea, and just as a may be.
EM
On the 49th Parallel
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika
machafuko"
From: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Frank Mujabi
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 4:10 AM
To: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com
Cc: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: {UAH} GEORGE OKELLO NOW YOU HAVE MAIL. Ge’ez
Which Maths Dept?
If its Makerere, it's most likely a half baked munyankole, with a fake first
degree and equally fake master's degree from Nkumba or Gulu university.
Sent from my iPhone
On 8 Feb 2015, at 11:20, George Okello <opal...@gmail.com
<mailto:opal...@gmail.com> > wrote:
"And if I may ask who heads the Mathematic department in Uganda today sir?"
On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 8:15 AM, Herrn Edward Mulindwa <mulin...@look.ca
<mailto:mulin...@look.ca> > wrote:
Dr Kipenji
My writing is about the education system that was structured in our country to
the one that should have been set in, and I am more than willing to follow your
contribution at how we can change it to benefit our children and our country,
than what was structured by the British that we have followed all these years
that has failed to prepare our children to the next century. And if I may ask
who heads the Mathematic department in Uganda today sir?
Thank you.
EM
On the 49th Parallel
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika
machafuko"
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[mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com
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Subject: Re: {UAH} GEORGE OKELLO NOW YOU HAVE MAIL. Ge’ez
Methinks you have missed the gist of your own self initiated discussion as you
call it.
You can not spew mis-et dis-informations on a subject you appear to be least
coversant
with and then turn around to hide in your usual confabulations about UPC
tactics.
The truth is Science subjects were taught in all schools throughout Uganda
before Idi
Amin your hero came to be.
If I may ask,is there any difference between you who lionizes Amin and those
who lionize
Adolf Hitler?
Though of the garb of critical thinking that you claim to be do ot act
unconscionably like you
do unless as I have wondered aloud,you go be under a spell of something that
would be of value
making us aware of so that we let you be.
A lie told a trillion times only becomes a trillion lies never a fact.
Kipenji
_____
From: Herrn Edward Mulindwa <mulin...@look.ca <mailto:mulin...@look.ca> >
To: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com
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Sent: Saturday, 7 February 2015, 18:45
Subject: RE: {UAH} GEORGE OKELLO NOW YOU HAVE MAIL. Ge’ez
Dr Owori Kipenji
This discussion is about teaching Uganda kids arts or science subjects. You are
a member of the party that has been running this very terrible educational
system in our country for ion years, at this point one would suffice to believe
that the victims befallen by it get a chance to debate it and how it has served
them. May be you need to give them a chance. And on I am sniffing on something
to post what I believed into, Is a bullying language of UPC that some of us
have decided to go after head on. You see the moment anyone states anything
wrong about the party, the responses we get is you were in state research and
we know you, we are saying you will be deported and you are sniffing crack, we
wish you go to Uganda and we put a bullet in you or we will smoke you out. All
those are UPC terminologies in violence so I am used. The violence that the
party used Acholi as attack Dogs. It Is so complex to hold sensible discussions
with UPC members to a point that I had a discussion last night with one of
them, that advised me to stop defining Konny as a violent man. And her
explanation was very simply, Edward Konny is not a violent man, his hands yes
may be but himself is a very good and soft man you only need to understand, and
you know if you call him violent in a public forum you become a bully of his
kids for they read what you post.
Thank you God for keeping me on earth, can you please and very kindly recall me
tonight.
EM
On the 49th Parallel
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika
machafuko"
From: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com
<mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 3:44 PM
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Subject: Re: {UAH} GEORGE OKELLO NOW YOU HAVE MAIL. Ge’ez
Herrn Mulindwa:
What are you sniffing these days? It is always good to write on issues that are
factually true and not based
on your understanding about them.
When you talk about the Education system in Uganda,are you truly telling us
what was obtaining at the time
or you are solely relying on the Naluwide episodes that appears to be your
principal bibliography?
First,if you ever remember my quarrel with the post Independent government,it
was that at that time they should
have given all and sundry free and compulsory Universal education up to at
least Grade VIII and thereafter the bursary
system that Districts used to admnister would kick in to help with post
secondary education.
That was unfortunately not done,but instead we were offered free health care
and this was greatly subsidized by investing
heavily on preventive medicine which was the right thing to do anyway.
Now on subjects that were being taught in schools,it is possible you actually
never went to school as you keep stating given that you and me are agemates and
yet I remember excelling in both the Sciences and arts subjects that you are
talking about but chose to stick with sciences at HSC.
People like the late Aryada incase you ever knew him,was a great
mathematician,in the same way as JJ Okot was a physics teacher and yet these
two fellows learnt those subjects and went on to teach them long before your
adorable
buffonish Idi Amin ever dreamt of becoming President.
Judging from your writ,you remind me about that BBC program Mind your
language,where the Chinese student in the English class whenever asked about
who said what or did what,she always answered :"Chairman Mao Zedong".
So,it is with you,you want people to believe that Idi Amin was the author of
everything Ugandan and yet you know that that
is the greatest lie you are spewing here ad nauseum.
Please,stop this story of trying to be what you are not especially so age
wise,given that at Independence you were barely in Grade One.
Kipenji
_____
From: Herrn Edward Mulindwa <mulin...@look.ca <mailto:mulin...@look.ca> >
To: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com
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Cc: uganda...@yahoogroups.com <mailto:uganda...@yahoogroups.com> ;
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Sent: Saturday, 7 February 2015, 14:47
Subject: {UAH} GEORGE OKELLO NOW YOU HAVE MAIL. Ge’ez
Friends
Let me burn a second to respond to the London nonsense that has been piled up
all along on Uganda education, now that I have got a second to sit on a
computer before I am sacrificed for the day. Foreign education has and needs to
be undervalued because it is not to our interest, and George Okello with UPC as
a party have stalled the country by forcing that education nonsense into Uganda
and we need to pull it out. Let us go back to Obote one educational system, yes
it was good for classrooms were running and The George Okello’s were blessed by
it to get a free education for the rest of us were growing coffee which was
paid in chicken droppings. But what were those schools actually teaching? And
that is what critical thinkers kept on asking as we were passing them. They
were teaching arts subjects. UPC stuck our country into teaching only arts
subjects for when you turned around to teach physics Mathematics Chemistry, you
were targeting the very jobs the Western countries never wanted Ugandans to do.
So UPC sold our country out to them by also refusing to educate our children
into sciences.
Go back and look closely at the degree holders we have out of Uganda
Universities they are mainly Lawyers and journalists. Their only education is
to preach the beauty of The British government and how we must always be
dependent on them, it was important for George Okello to list himself in UAH as
a member of The Queen’s council. Tell me how does that help us as Ugandans?
Because now we know they are important. When they come into these countries,
they never function as lawyers to serious cases, they do cases we define as
Legal Aid cases, a kid has weed they show up, a kid has a drinking and driving
case they show up but as far as I know any serious case they have taken they
have lost it. Then the government as Ontario turned around and cut legal aid
to the bones I think they pay a case after 8 months or a year. It is not
justice but a welfare system to such lawyers. And that is how they were
educated. To sell UK education but which is not of value to us as Africans. So
understand why George Okello preaches the Western Education he is simply
fulfilling the job he was trained to do.
When Amin came to power, { Mr Okuonzi, just like Edward Mulindwa, seems to be
happy that Uganda had an illiterate buffoon like Idi Amin as leader,} The
educateds define as an illiterate buffoon, his first mission was to reverse
that. Amin wanted Uganda schools to teach Mathematics, Science and physics so
that our children can be prepared for the next century. There is a reason
Ombachi and Mpoma satellite were built for Amin knew that where we are going we
need data transmission, and we need to prepare the country for it, that is why
he built them than UPC. Amin went to Mecca where he met a leader of Pakistan, I
forget the man’s name but he signed an agreement to bring into Uganda 5,000
expatriates to revive the educational system from the UPC British based
education system, we were stuck into to a Mathematical system we actually
needed. They arrived into Uganda, and among them was the leader of the
Mathematics department Makerere University, Buddo I think got about two or
three of them, and when I have time I will post more locations where they were
allocated. Those mathematicians and physicist were working in nuclear
departments in their country and came to Uganda for Amin wanted to change that
system from the useless brains it was producing. Men like Barbas Killi
believed into that line of thinking, and another one whose name I think was
Rwandererire also believed into that educational transformation.
The moment Amin left power, the very first thing Western countries demanded was
to stop that program immediately, UPC agreed and they were all fired but
deported. Uganda started again to carry on with arts subjects. When Museveni
came he maintained the arts, and men like Rwandererire either died in Western
Uganda or still alive and never allowed to do anything concerning education. We
are producing so many degree holders in Uganda but start to wonder why they are
all lawyers and journalists. What don’t we have mathematicians, Physicists,
Scientists why not? Because Lawyers suck the British and praise them a great
deal as this man George Okello is doing. Our education system is that screwed.
And that is why when Jim Muwanga complains that we have failed to wire the
country and we need to transmit data, a call I have done many times in these
forums, there is a catch to that claim. We will buy the systems and we will get
them installed but they will be installed by French British and Americans
because we only have piles of lawyers and journalists qualifying through our
ass and their job is to praise western education than creating jobs for our
children. Remember when Alcatel came to install the phones in Uganda, Uganda
were only digging trenches for we are not educated to install the systems let
alone maintain them. The education system of our country is structured to
protect the jobs for The British and we in change get “educated” Lawyers that
are simply useless. These days kids tell you how they are in Makerere
University ask them what they are studying, response Mass communication. What
the heck is that? You are screwed but that is how they are educated from the
ground coming up, and George Okello praises that Western Education for it is
great. Tell me this, just how many Mathematician Ugandans do you know? And you
think that is a coincidence? It is because we ae not allowed to educate them to
such and UPC enforces that hold on Uganda brains.
The Mathematics teachers that were educated by the Pakistan’s to push the
country forward are the very teachers that were rounded up and sent to John
Ogole to fight with in LUwero and they all never came back. And I have stated
that before. All that is to stand in London pub and praise western education
which is a lie to you as Ugandans. Until when we start to educate our children
into Mathematics and sciences we are long time fucked and George Okello is
preaching to us to take exactly that path as UPC is pleading us to do.
I am an educated man and I a member of the Queen’s council my back side !!!!!!
{Whoops sorry for my French}
EM
On the 49th Parallel
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika
machafuko"
From: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com
<mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of George Okello
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 6:42 AM
To: ugandans-at-heart
Subject: Re: {UAH} Guys did you know George even dreams in English?
Comrade Robukui,
It is frustrating when people like Ronald Okuonzi jump into discussions without
understanding what they are all about? He is talking about language in a
totally different context, and has totally missed the drift. Negro who speaks
English is not an Englishman!! Okuonzi is still rooted in the USA politics of
the 1960s, with its messages of black empowerment, negro upliftment, rejection
of white cultural genocide, etc. The message of black spiritual revival was
relevant in politicising black America, but is totally useless in reversing
the effects of centuries of cultural genocide. How many blackAmericans speak
African languages today? Is it not English that all of them speak? How many of
them have returned to Africa, and do they actually want to do so?
In terms of Africa, it is pretty silly to say that speaking English or another
foreign language is a hindrance to the emancipation of the African continent.
Ability to speak English is a huge advantage, after all English is now the
language of the world. We have to adjust to changing reality.
Mr Okuonzi promotes such archaic ideas that people who speak English are
somehow disqualified from taking leadership positions in Africa. His Lado
dreamland has more than 50 ethnic languages. Which of them will he use to
conduct business, assuming Lado becomes an independent state? How will he
conduct business internationally? Will he speak in kakwa before bodies like
the UN, the International Atomic Energy Organisation, the World Bank, the
International Monetary Fund etc? Idi Amin once addressed the UN in luganda and
Swahili- did that really promote the interests of Uganda or confirmed its
reputation as a basket case?
Mr Okuonzi, just like Edward Mulindwa seems undervalue or to be against
education and looks down on foreign education. If these are the ideas he wants
to use to run a future independent Lado State, then I am afraid the status quo
will be much preferable for the peoples of Lado. Africa needs to develop. For
this to happen, it needs a massive transfer of skills and technology from the
west. The more highly educated people we train, the better for our country.
Uganda needs to train more engineers, technicians, agriculturists, doctors and
administrators. With the collapse of our educational system, most of these
skills can now only be acquired from abroad. The first stage in Uganda's
recovery will be in the return of the thousands of people who are currently
living in the diaspora. Most of these people in the diaspora have acquired new
skills and as well as practical experience which would be invaluable to
rebuilding our country.
Mr Okuonzi, just like Edward Mulindwa, seems to be happy that Uganda had an
illiterate buffoon like Idi Amin as leader, or that the semi-educated Museveni
has been ensconced in power in Uganda for alost 30 years. I am afraid Ugandans
beg to think differently. They want highly educated leaders who have a clear
grasp of the modern world and of policies than can work. Ugandans don't want
bumbling fools like Idi Amin and Museveni. I am not bothered where Ugandan
leaders get their education, so long as they are educated.
Speaking an ethnic language is an asset, but it is not a qualification for
leadership. My nieces who have returned to to work as doctors in northern
Uganda hardly speak Luo or other local languages- how has that stopped them
from being at the very front of the fight against diseases like Ebola, Nodding
Disease etc? It is so silly for Mr Okuonzi to state that because they do not
speak Ugandan languages, therefore they can not contribute to the health and
well being of Ugandans.
George Okello
On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Ssalongo Ssennoga <firstcall...@gmail.com
<mailto:firstcall...@gmail.com> > wrote:
George!!! You are hired! I am in for dual citizenship... How do I become a
Filipino Cebuan???
Villager
On Sunday, February 1, 2015, Robukui <robuku...@gmail.com
<mailto:robuku...@gmail.com> > wrote:
Gopo,
How long did you hesitate?
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 31, 2015, at 9:30 PM, George Okello <opal...@gmail.com
> <mailto:opal...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> Rajab Ali,
>
> I am not a patron of "ago-ago clubs", but I have visited some of them.
> Before I we
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