Omwami Kipenji,
You are asking me to methodically examine and explain in detail reasons why people of all kinds went to Acholi to study the violence and have written several reports afterwards. As far as I am concerned, I do not see anything to analyze here. As a matter of fact, the onus of doing so falls on you the doubter. If we are here to analyze these reports why then do you resort to abuse and insults? But now that you have asked me to analyze these reports, can you also do us a favor and explain in detail why the so-called "Moshi Spirit" collapsed as soon as Amin was removed? The genesis of the Luwero war, the Ombaci massacre, the creation of Kony and Museveni's nearly 3 decades of dictatorship was the collapse of the UNLA/UNLF and the rigging of the 1980 election, or to put it more clearly, the lust for power within the so-called liberators that were created to methodically examine every political aspect. If you can explain and justify why there were six changes of Government from 1979 to 1986, then you are free to say anything you want about me. If Amin was the real problem of Uganda, after his fall, why did the following governments or administrations not last?: Lule Binaisa The Military Commission Obote II Okello and Okello who were removed by Museveni in January of 1986. If you the so-called educated are unable to explain to us the uneducated in simple and clear terms why there has been constant power struggle amongst your selves so called political elites of Uganda, how can I be the dismissed person turn around and explain to you why these outsiders have researched and written what I am making available here? You claim that I am making false statements. Now, what evidence do you have that I was recruiting Rwandese who were being expelled by Obote to join Museveni in Luwero. Were you there seeing me doing so, or it another figment of your imagination to make you look good "mbu" I know EM was doing this and that! Mw. Kipenji, let us agree on one thing, that is with our current mind set and with age setting in, there is no way, we can ever resolve Uganda's problems. I only feel very very sorry for the younger generation and the one yet to come...they will inherit shit! Have a good day sir!! EM On the 49th Parallel Thé Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy" Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika machafuko" From: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com [mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 9:15 PM To: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: {UAH} Don't deny your husband’s sex - Okurut Herrn Mulindwa: I am not going to indulge in discussions that are your confabulations.You are right to follow whatever trajectory your wondering mind takes you to.That is your right. Turning your self into every specialist of sorts shows that you are really a master of none except for a wannabe syndrome you are heaving to achieve. Don't tell me the crap of whatever you think you are most informed about with respect to children's rights. What is Canada your new domicle doing about the myriad pedophiles within their borders let alone those residing not very far from your Umgebung? Or to you pedophilia is a less heinous crime? You had better differentiate the sadistic way that you flip whatever so called zillion publications you keep yakking about from analysing the said information to help society get to the bottom of what afflicts them.Those two approaches mean different things except may be to you,the effete self styled critical thinker. Secondly,before bragging about a zillion publication you have access to,try to find out why the study was conducted, what benefits the persons being studied accrued from it and whether there were reviews and revisions on those publications then you can morphe into the intellectual you want to be. Kipenji _____ From: Herrn Edward Mulindwa <mulin...@look.ca <mailto:mulin...@look.ca> > To: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com <mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, 10 February 2015, 19:38 Subject: {UAH} Don't deny your husband’s sex - Okurut Dr. Kipenji, I hope your medical practice has nothing to do with women and children's health for the fact that you refer to rape of women and abduction of children as EM's pet project. Frankly, I do not know what the reaction would be if you made such a statement in the department of gynecology and obstetrics especially in Canada where women and children's rights are at the forefront of every government department policy. It is true, never judge a book by its cover. You have gone as far as accusing me of not even knowing the meaning of target or targeting, claiming Acholi and Langi never targeted Amin. How would you then define the phone call Obote made from Singapore to have Amin arrested? Is that not targeting a particular individual? The issue of me abandoning discussion on mathematics, Dr. Kipenji, bear in mind that in a discussion such as this unrelated topics very often pop in over which I have no control. If it is a bother for you, I have no problem leaving topics which you think I am not competent enough to discuss alone. This series strictly deals with violence used by Acholi against innocent people for years. But if unrelated subjects are thrown into the middle of this series, I have the right to respond sir. You seem to be competent enough, why don't you use that competence to stick to the topics instead of attacking me as a person? I thought this forum was started to discuss matters of importance to Ugandans of which violence against innocent people is a part as well as abuse of power, corruption, lack of accountability etc. But again that is me. EM On the 49th Parallel Thé Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy" Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika machafuko" From: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com <mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com> [mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com] Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 10:36 PM To: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com <mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: {UAH} Don't deny your husband’s sex - Okurut Herrn Mulindwa: You appear to be reeling from some imaginary hurts.When I used the phrase that you are an intellectual grasshoper was that being abusive to you or just cautioning you against multitasking because in the process,you lose yourself in your intellectual maze. The last on that piece regarding what you stated about a man I introduced you to was that you were being consistent.I wonder how you easily morphed into being consistent from my re posting the said article as being personally directed at getting you. Now here we go again,the issue is about a Madam Minister advising women about what not to do,you are already grafting my name into your pet Acoli violence obssession. You appear to have now abandoned even the issue of mathematics that was what I thought you were focussing on.May be you really need to read history because that is where the treasure of knowledge resides,whether you are talking about Sciences and mathematics or even violence,fake PhDs and political parties like UPC.Armed with history,you will come to realize that UPC is a Ganda founded party whose leadership was given to Obote for reasons best known to the founders in much the sameway that DP was a party student by a group of Gulu students aka Acolis who also ceded the party leadership to a Ganda. That way,you will also understand that Acoli that you sadistically talk about are not as violent as your hero President Idi Amin was. Target means aiming at something.It amazes me to read your writ stating that the Acolis and Langis targeted Amin and yet it was Amin murdering them en mass.What mathematical logic did you apply in that operation? Amin,the tyrant and coward he was only terrorized civilians by way of killing them through firing squads and yet when real fighters like he claimed to be started coming after him,he became Mugulupa,running around with radio trasmitters claiming he was still President.That in itself was odd because Presidents are usually referred to as Excellencies by other people and need not make such claims.The rest is history anyway a subject you are loathe to learn. Kipenji _____ From: Herrn Edward Mulindwa <mulin...@look.ca <mailto:mulin...@look.ca> > To: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com <mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, 9 February 2015, 21:11 Subject: RE: {UAH} Don't deny your husband’s sex - Okurut Gwokto This forum is an adult forum of adults that have children even reading, a very reason I have been very disappointed with Dry Owori Kipenji for using it to publicly call me a stupid Grass Hopper, when his own kids might as well be reading it. I am one of those members that have been consistently attacked and abused in this forum but my war is factually based than name calling and being abusive. In using UAH I have taken all steps to respect you and all of you as members of this forum but I have respect your families. And I know UPC is a party that was built on being abusive and violent for it has Acholi that agreed to be sacrificed for its survival, but with time and good education Acholi will as well start to get civilized, then what? As a parent is this a statement you want your child let alone her mom see you posting publicly? “If you got no comment just wrap the nothing and shove it up your stinking ass” Let us kindly grow up and debate our issues intelligently but respectfully. EM On the 49th Parallel Thé Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy" Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika machafuko" From: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com <mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com> [mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gwokto La'Kitgum Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 8:44 PM To: ugandans-at-heart Subject: Re: {UAH} Don't deny your husbands sex - Okurut If you got no comment just wrap the nothing and shove it up your stinking ass. Who doesnt know its spelled "Okurut" and you may know I am a more closer acquaintance to this Okurut than you who lives geographically close to him. ___________________________________ Gwokto La'Kitgum "Even a small dog can piss on a tall Building", Jim Hightower On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Herrn Edward Mulindwa <mulin...@look.ca <mailto:mulin...@look.ca> > wrote: Friends The name is actually Okurut than Okutut, and I have addressed him may times to remember it. EM On the 49th Parallel Thé Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy" Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika machafuko" From: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com <mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com> [mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com <mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Gwokto La'Kitgum Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 7:40 PM To: ugandans-at-heart Subject: Re: {UAH} Don't deny your husbands sex - Okurut Pojim,. Its applaud you for directing the subject to the right authority - Elder Okurut. In a confused aromatic potpourri basket such as UAH where there are Priests, Reverends, Imams, Mgangas and Billy-goats like Ssalongo, Robukui, Kiga Bwoy, Jim and Dholaman there has got to be at least one starlight thinking Baboon with the hard nose to identify and distinguish every flower petal by its smell without contaminating others or rub against the unpleasant ones to smell good. In the UAH basket the Baboon to do the job is none other than Elder Sir Simon Okutut. I wait. ___________________________________ Gwokto La'Kitgum "Even a small dog can piss on a tall Building", Jim Hightower On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 6:45 PM, 'edward pojim' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community <ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com <mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com> > wrote: Folks; Hon. Okurut wants men to be allowed to have sex on demand. Her advice, coming barely a week before Valentine's Day, is not romantic at all. Marital sex should the ultimate form of spousal intimacy; it should not be a chore for one spouse, and a right for the other. By connecting domestic violence to the frequency of sex in marriage, the minister is holding the victims of spousal abuse responsible for their fates. Ms. Okurut may be talking like a senga, but her office is higher and larger than a backyard bush where sengas are known to conduct their ritualistic sessions. Any couple in a sexual relationship - married, dating, etc - should not see their partners as a sex toy. Both parties should be mentally available for that level of intimacy. Going by Ms. Okurut's advise, I doubt if she believes that marital rape occurs or is a crime. 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