Ocen Nekyon
I hate fairly tells as well but can we all stand up as adults, and set up a commission of inquiry on the death of Jonan Luwum? Yes let us all call all that know what happened and they testify under oath so that we move on. I am just sick tired of this UPC crap crying everyone is lying about this Pig when they have no balls to call for an inquiry. Yoweri Museveni is your man for you were with him in Tanzania, he is in power, stand up and ask him for a firkin commission of inquiry on why Jonana Luwum was killed. This will hand everyone a chance to speak under oath and in front a judge, and the final report be posted as a true reason why Luwum was killed. When you and Museveni are budgeting for that commission, we will please pay our own fare and board. EM On the 49th Parallel Thé Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy" Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika machafuko" From: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com [mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ocennek...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 3:16 PM To: Ahmed Musaazi; UAH Subject: Re: {UAH} Luwum Story - New Vision This is another 'Fairy tale!' Ocen Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Ahmed Musaazi Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 13:11 To: UAH Reply To: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: {UAH} Luwum Story - New Vision Joseph, you can not admit that the late Arch Bishop was involved in politics and military activities as early as 1966 where Israelis used him and Amin to arm ANyanya. When Amin fell out with the Israelis the Arch Bishop continue collaborating with the Israelis. The late Arch Bishop was one of political guides of Amin since 1966 and even incited him to take over from Obote claiming that the latter was anti-Acholi. Amin takes responsibility for killing people in cold blood but they were not innocent. Yona Kanyomozi should tell us (unfortunately is hospitalized) ow he leaked the plot to Idi Amin in order to preempt Obote from taking over from A Min, a plot that was only known to Luo community in the army, police, prisons and civil service. A retired parliamentarian yesterday told me how the Bible and "enjatula" were put in cpontainers despited to Uganda but underneath were arms, and were destined to a store whether at Nmairembe or else where, which was manned by Southern Sudanese who were in collaboration with the Israelis. According to this parliamentarian, who is a civil servant again as it was the case in seventies, Luwum may not have been personally involved but it was true that arms had been smuggled into the country under cover of the Bible copies for Centenary celebration. Even the late Bishop Festo Kivengere (l love idi amin 1977) WROTE THAT THERE WAS A COUP PLOT TO TAKE PLACE ON January 25TH 1977. In a Tuesday press conference, Ambassador Olara Otunnu accepted all that and even said that the late Abdullah Anyur knew of the plot if not master minded it, but defended the arch bishop saying that though outspoken, he did not believe in violence and blood shed. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 6:34 PM, Gwokto La'Kitgum <lakit...@gmail.com <mailto:lakit...@gmail.com> > wrote: Hussein, it appears you know a lot about your father's doings. What I want to believe is that he trusted no one but himself - not even Mulindwa who must have barely missed the firing squad for knowing all about your father. Kindly tell us the circumstances under which each of the individuals below were butchered and this is just a short list. Unless, of course, you have appointed Mulindwa to concoct his versions for truths. Being that closest to your "Dad" you must have been privy to several eye-witness accounts of severd heads brought to your "Dad" as proof an innocent soul has been delivered for his refrigerated cooler "Amin's Museum of Severed Heads" - the only museum a visitor had to dress as an Eskimo for a tour inside. Talking about sons, how come you have suddenly turned out the most popular amongst all your siblings whereas growing up we used to hear and see black/white fotos of only a one Moses and a one Muwanga. To be honest, first time I got to know you even existed was here in Abbey's forest - UAH. Before that I had read about some unknown rudimentary Xerox of your father named Faisal Wangita facing GOPO behind the Queen's bench for bludgeoning one Mahir Osman in London to DEATH. Wangita? Inst tha a Kikuyu name? Yikesss.... ! Their are so many undisputed "Like Father Like Son" in your family that entering your crib alone must be an eerie, hair-raising, spooky, frightening and weird all-in-one experience. So if I may ask, where are Moses and Muwanga and if both deceased how did they meet the "advance" to Golan Heights before your "Dad" or can some Baboon here teell me where they are?. You Baboons have been breeding like pigs in farmer Leah Kalanguka's pigsty and you never know, one of your tentacles could be right near me here in my hood. Moses and Muwanga in military uniforms also made me realize one other thing. That besides being the first corrupt government official right before the independence ink dried, Amin was also first to recruit child soldiers. Incidentally all in your family were soldiers bcos while my improvised leather catapult retaliated by snapping and reddening my eyes your toys were assorted arsenals of bang-bang live pistols and Uzi guns for an army inside an army. Had your father been prez for life he would have had a complete army battalion of none other than pieces from his ever excited groin. So, Baboons, while Hussein recounts events leading to the murders of individuals below, where are Moses and Muwanga? Oboth Ofumbi left of Amin ___________________________________ Gwokto La'Kitgum "Even a small dog can piss on a tall Building", Jim Hightower On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Hussein Amin <husseinjur...@gmail.com <mailto:husseinjur...@gmail.com> > wrote: Picture 1: (1977) Idi Amin walking with Janan Luwum. By this time, Luwum was already plotting to kill Idi Amin. Picture 2: (1980) Journalist Dan Wooding pointing at non-existent crocodiles at Karuma bridge. Dear Editor. I found it amazing when I read the New Vision story (Luwum Murder: What Witnesses Said, published February 12th) about the late Archbishop Janan Luwum (RIP). It appears that the story was based on the Commission of Inquiry instituted by the government in 1987. The first "witness" in the report is one Daniel Mulemezi, purportedly a police officer who claims to have been privy to events. In another article from the Daily Monitor (How Amin killed Ben Kiwanuka), the same Daniel Mulemezi claims to have also saw what happened there as well. To me, Mr. Mulemezi seemed to be everywhere to so as to expediate the process and satisfy a kangaroo court but provides no shred of evidence, nor any police investigation report, no mention of colleagues, nor meetings with superiors who sanctioned/supervized his investigations. Something very unlikely in any police force especially for major cases. In his testimony he appears as some lone element just telling stories to satisfy the government of the day. I also say Kangaroo court because this commission of inquiry actually failed to include crimes committed by the geurilla NRA who according to a confession by a Col. Kahinda Otafiire in 1994, was involved in possible war crimes against civilian populations. Actions that they would then make sure were blamed on the UPC government by wearing UPC T-shirts during their attacks on villages. Such atrocities are surprisingly not included in the commissions report yet they were committed in the time frame covered by the commission, and Mr. Kahinda Otafiire was and still is part of the goverment that set up that commission of inquiry. Why then isn't such testimony included in the commissions proceedings? Was their a deliberate effort to blame others while sweeping their own dirt under the rag? A kangaroo court is one set up to satisfy political ends. And more importantly, it helps to validate false claims made against political foes. After the Amin regime, the survival formula for all was: "Blame Amin and survive, or praise him and die at the hands of wakombozi". So every Ugandan prepared a horrendous story in case they needed to use it. Many European journalists have fallen prey to this, including Dan Wooding whose picture shows him standing on Karuma bridge pointing at non-existent crocodiles that Amin had alledgedly thrown his foes at. Some Ugandan took the journalist there and the mzungu swallowed the story evrn without seeing a crocodile. Those of us who have always used that bridge on our way to and from West Nile, know that there have never been crocodiles in that place. The simple reason is that the waters are so tremendously rough that nothing can live in those waters. It is so dangerous that even a sport like rafting is impossible. Nobody has ever seen any crocodiles at Karuma. Period. So this survival formula explains Mustafa Adrisi's testimony in the inquiry. He was a detainee possibly seeking a way out of his predicament when he faced the inquiry. Following his damning testimonies, he has lived freely with the goverment until his recent death where he was even accorded a State funeral. We are talking about Idi Amins Vice President here. There was no way that could happen if he had stuck to the official narrative of the government he had previously served. The late Mustapha Adrisi says that the guns Janan Luwum was found with were brought from Amins State Research armoury. But those who have read the book "Sowing the mustard seed", have heard Museveni talk about the subversive operation he organized at the time from Tanzania with the help of a reluctant Nyerere. Museveni actually mentions by name the people who drove the very vehicles that were carrying the weapons. He explains that the plan was to have guns inside the country ready to start a popular uprising. So to say that the Archbishop was an innocent lamb is either wishful thinking, a cover up, or selective amnesia at work. Because Luwum was part of a real plan to topple the government. The Archbishop knelt down in front of the whole diplomatic community at Nile Mansions and confessed to the plot. Incredibly, he is the one who actually pointed at Erinayo Oryema and Oboth Ofumbi (RIP) as his accomplices? That is first hand testimony from soldiers who were present, and some still alive. As for the actual death of Janan Luwum, the commission of inquiry seems to say that he was killed in two different places. At first the report says the Archbishops death occured at Makindye Military Police barracks where he was alledgedly taken. Then the same report changes the story towards the end and says he was also killed at State Research Bureau, Nakasero. Which one is it? I have discussed my own research findings surrounding the death of Janan Luwum. It tells a completely different story. One that analyses inconsistencies in the current narrative and also investigates those events from both political sides. The Amin government and the rest. It is a research that I hope to make public in due course. In the meantime, a commission of inquiry has the powers of a high court but only in terms of summoning persons of interest to appear before it. They don't issue any judgement. And that's the reason why it is inappropriate to even start publicly saying "Luwums murder". Because the other side says it was a car collision and that has never been proved wrong in a trial. Basically there hasn't been any judgement here. Allegations are allegations until a satisfactory independent investigation is conducted and its findings presented in a proper court that is mandated to make a ruling. Hussein Juruga Lumumba Amin Kampala, Uganda. -- Disclaimer:Everyone posting to this Forum bears the sole responsibility for any legal consequences of his or her postings, and hence statements and facts must be presented responsibly. 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