Friends
When you look closely at the numbers I am throwing at my dear friends from Northern Uganda, even though every single NGO that was in The North at a time was pumping money in millions of dollars to look after the camped people, I have so far not included any of their money. I have not included money from International organizations, I have not included money from Ugandans ministry of finance that was budgeted for them, I have not included any money from outside governments that was pumped into Northern Uganda. What I am still limiting my numbers on is money that was borrowed outside of Uganda which we all as Ugandans, our children and our grandchildren are going to be responsible to pay back to the lenders. And that clarification is very important if you will understand how Uganda government, Acholi and Langi made The Kony war a single largest basket of money in Uganda history. Here is a third amount we borrowed. Under a Northern Uganda Social Action Plan, we borrowed from The World Bank an amount of SDR 80.1 Million, an equivalent of US $100 Million dollars to take care of the people that were in camps. The Vice president of this project was Callisto Madavo, Country director of the project was Judy M O’Connor, Sector manager was Dzingai B. Mutumbuka and Task Team Leader was Norbert O. Mugwagwa. The Uganda government contact for this particular loan was Mr. Timothy Lubanga at 256 41 2510131. Which takes me back to the original questions :- 1} 100 Million US dollars is a huge amount for a small region as Northern Uganda, what did it do that we can see today as an achievement from that debt? 2} Many of the people that died in The North died due to hunger, how did we fail to even feed them when we have such huge amounts at our hands? 3} If there was corruption in Uganda Government, where were all Acholi/Langi to raise the dust on mismanagement of this massive fund when their very own people are dying? Where was Olara Otunnu, where was Norbert Mao, where was George Okello, where was Ocen Nekyon but where was Lucima? 4} What income did such number of Acholi/Langi have to justify the numerous real estate they have established in Buganda especially in Kampala for men like Norbert Mao to have real estate’s worth to be rented by The Movement? Fellow Ugandans let record show that since I started these numbers 2 days ago, this posting makes the sum so far we have sent to Northern Uganda to 575.50 Million US dollars. Just how much money did The Kony war pump into Acholi land? Geez !!!!!!!! EM On the 49th Parallel Thé Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy" Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika machafuko" From: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com [mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Herrn Edward Mulindwa Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 3:57 AM To: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com Cc: uganda...@yahoogroups.com; ugandanet@kym.net Subject: {UAH} WHY DID SO MANY ACHOLI/LANGI DIE IN CAMPS OF SHEER HUNGER? Friends In continuation with the numbers that never lie, here is another number I need to throw at our dear friends from The North that decry Museveni corruption. We as Ugandans walked to The World bank and we again borrowed some little change to take care of our friends The Acholi Langi that were camped. This time around we borrowed US$ 124 Million. This amount was borrowed under a name of Second Northern Uganda Social Action Fund. This project was jointly financed by the department for international Development. Below are the dear pending questions :- 1} 124 Million US dollars is a huge amount for a small region as Northern Uganda, what did it do that we can see today as an achievement from that debt? 2} Many of the people that died in The North died due to hunger, how did we fail to even feed them when we have such huge amounts at our hands? 3} If there was corruption in Uganda Government, where were all Acholi/Langi to raise the dust on mismanagement of this massive fund when their very own people are dying? Where was Olara Otunnu, where was Norbert Mao, where was George Okello, where was Lucima? 4} What income did such number of Acholi/Langi have to justify the numerous real estate they have established in Buganda especially in Kampala for men like Norbert Mao to have real estates worth to be rented by The Movement? Fellow Ugandans let record show that since I started these numbers just yesterday, this posting makes the sum so far we have sent to Northern Uganda to 457.50 Million US dollars. Just how much money did The Kony war pump into Acholi land? Geez !!!!!!!! EM On the 49th Parallel Thé Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy" Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika machafuko" From: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com <mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com> [mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Herrn Edward Mulindwa Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 3:30 AM To: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com <mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com> Cc: uganda...@yahoogroups.com <mailto:uganda...@yahoogroups.com> ; ugandanet@kym.net <mailto:ugandanet@kym.net> Subject: {UAH} WHY DID SO MANY ACHOLI/LANGI DIE IN CAMPS OF SHEER HUNGER? Friends As many of our friends from The North continue to keep quiet and not answering questions, we need tonight to throw another figure in their faces. Among the so many millions of dollars that were pumped into The North during the Konny war, was another amount that we all as Ugandans borrowed to maintain the life styles of noncombatants that had been camped. Here is another figure I have for you tonight. As a country, we went to The World Bank and we borrowed a huge amount of money to maintain the lives of our fellow Ugandans that were camped, this amount was borrowed from the world bank under a project ID P002952, the amount borrowed this time around was a whopping 133.50 Million US dollars. The project manager of this particular project was Suleiman Namala. Below are the dear pending questions :- 1} 133.50 Million US dollars is a huge amount for a small region as Northern Uganda, what did it do that we can see today as an achievement from that debt? 2} Many of the people that died in The North died due to hunger, how did we fail to even feed them when we have such huge amounts at our hands? 3} If there was corruption in Uganda Government, where were all Acholi/Langi to raise the dust on mismanagement of this massive fund when their very own people are dying? Where was Olara Otunnu, where was Norbert Mao, where was George Okello, where was Lucima? 4} What income did such number of Acholi/Langi have to justify the numerous real estate they have established in Buganda especially in Kampala for men like Norbert Mao to have real estate’s worth to be rented by The Movement? Fellow Ugandans let record show that since I started these numbers yesterday, this posting makes the sum so far we have sent to Northern Uganda to 233.50 Million US dollars. Just how much money did The Kony war pump into Acholi land? Geez !!!!!!!! EM On the 49th Parallel Thé Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy" Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika machafuko" From: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com <mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com> [mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Herrn Edward Mulindwa Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 8:36 AM To: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com <mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com> Cc: uganda...@yahoogroups.com <mailto:uganda...@yahoogroups.com> ; ugandanet@kym.net <mailto:ugandanet@kym.net> Subject: RE: {UAH} Garissa could have been avoided if we had learned from past attacks Friends There are numbers that one can throw into this debate. When you leave the entire money poured into Northern Uganda due to the Kony war, and only consider a single pump of money that was done under the Second Northern Uganda Social Action fund project {NUSAF2}. This project had a leader by the name of Ebdashaw Tadesse Gossa, we as Ugandans borrowed a total of 100 Million US dollars to run this single project in Northern Uganda. Below are the questions:- 1} 100 Million US dollars is a huge amount for a small region as Northern Uganda, what did it do that we can see today as an achievement? 2} If this money was borrowed by us as Ugandans and we are going to pay it with time, why was the project of a borrowed money headed by a non-Ugandan? 3} Many of the people that died in The North died due to hunger, how did we fail to even feed them when we have such huge amounts at our hands? 4} If there was corruption in The prime minister’s office, where was all Acholi/Langi to raise the dust on mismanagement of this massive fund when their very own people are dying? Where was Olara Otunnu, whre was Norbert Mao, where was George Okello, where was Lucima? 5} What income did such number of Acholi/Langi have to justify the numerous real estate they have established in Buganda especially in Kampala? EM On the 49th Parallel Thé Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy" Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika machafuko" From: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com <mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com> [mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Herrn Edward Mulindwa Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 3:40 AM To: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com <mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com> Cc: uganda...@yahoogroups.com <mailto:uganda...@yahoogroups.com> ; ugandanet@kym.net <mailto:ugandanet@kym.net> Subject: {UAH} Garissa could have been avoided if we had learned from past attacks Barigye And Obama as a democrat candidate preached on The war in Iraq is a creation of the Republicans, and if elected he will stop it , he promised an immediate with draw of troops with an immediate shut down of Guantanamo Bay. When Hilary lost in that campaign, Obama realized that he actually has a shot of being a president, he changed that statement to we will work with our allies to see how we can end the Iraqi war. On record Obama is going to end his second term when Iraq is still a war zone, and Guantanamo is going to still be open. I have extensively read about the Konyi war and I simply cannot buy the story of it was an avoidable issue. Its extension to what time it took was by design, but its start was never by design sir. Even before NRA went to The North, Acholi had split themselves into two, those that were in UNLF and those that were not. Let us also remember that always in their lives, Acholi are never together, they were separated by towns during Obote one, during Amin, during Obote two and they were divided during The Movement. An Acholi from Kitgum as an example, takes himself as different from an Acholi from Gulu. And I can write many of these examples where you see that they actually regard themselves different, than a Muganda of Masaka who takes himself the same as a Muganda of Mawokota. Acholi do not regard themselves as equals or as the same. Such upbringing but back ground, has a major potential for war even if you love to lead a country peacefully. There is always going to be a war in Acholi land that I will not be surprised if another leader camps them again. I have argued that we need to start discussing Acholi violence candidly to be educated on it for a very good reason sir. EM On the 49th Parallel Thé Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy" Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika machafuko" From: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com <mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com> [mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allan Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 2:49 AM To: ug at Subject: Re: {UAH} Garissa could have been avoided if we had learned from past attacks Mulindwa, The konyi war was a war by design not by choice. It could have been avoided if the gov't cared to. On Apr 5, 2015 10:35 PM, "Herrn Edward Mulindwa" <mulin...@look.ca <mailto:mulin...@look.ca> > wrote: Edward Pojim Let us live the attack of Garissa on the sides and look at what happened in Uganda. The Konny war remained a very huge thorn in Northern Uganda, camps were attacked and many Ugandans were murdered. But let us closely look at a single attack that happened in Atiak, why did this attack happen? When you read closely the many reports written about the Atiak attack, it was built due to land dispute between one clan of Acholi and another clan. Atiak deaths were built due to two clans holding a very long dispute between each other on a piece of land. They decided to go after each other and at the end of the day about 300 people were left dead. Edward we all as Ugandans have land and we all have land disputes between ourselves, my God I have a piece of land I have failed to develop to today because a lady is claiming it is her land, so these claims are not isolated in Uganda, but we do not go after each other and murdering each other. Why do Acholi defuse these situations by clobbering each other to death? Do you have a system in mind you think Uganda government can establish a way to protect Acholi clans from each other due to land disputes? What should the government do, put a tank at every tribal house? And these attacks in Acholi land have covered so many areas especially schools and here is the list if I can even try to list them:- St. Mary's College Lacor: 32 girls were abducted on August 20, 1992 while another 23 girls were abducted on July 23, 1996. Atiak: On April 17, 1995, over 250 were clubbed or shot dead in Atiak, Gulu. Attack carried out by over 80 LRA rebels led by Otti Lagony and Vincent Otti. Aboke: In October 1996, 139 girls from St. Mary's College Aboke in Apac District were abducted. Achol Pii Massacre: In July 1996 more than 100 Sudanese refugees killed by LRA rebels at a UNHCR settlement on Kitgum-Gulu Road. The remaining of over 10,000 refugees were variously translocated to safer areas of Uganda like Kiryandongo in Masindi District. Sir Samuel Baker School: On August 21, 1996, 39 students were abducted from their dormitory and conscripted by LRA. Sacred Heart SS, Gulu: 138 girls abducted between June 1987 and March, 1998. Padibe/Palabek: In mid-January 1997, LRA rebels massacre more than 300 in Kitgum's Lokung, Palabek and Padibe villages. Mucwini: On July 24, 2002 in Mucwini, Kitgum, 56 civilians at Kirome village were forced to form a queue and clubbed to death or executed sparking off mass displacement of thousands of others. Lapono: On October 14, 2002 rebels kill at least 52 villagers by hacking with machetes, while 34 were gathered together into their huts, which were then set on fire. Abia: On February 4, 2002, 40 people killed in a rebel attack on Abia IDP camp outside Lira Town. Forced cannibalism: In November 2002, suspected LRA rebels compelled mourners in a border village in Southern Sudan, to boil and eat their deceased at gunpoint. Those who refused were massacred. Patongo: In September 2002, 27 civilians were hacked to death and mutilated at Patongo, Pader district and boiled in their bodies in cooking pots. Barlonyo: In February 2004 LRA rebels reportedly led by Okot Odhiambo attacked Barlonyo IDP camp killing up to 309 people in a single raid. General primary school abductions: Between 1987 and 2000, primary schools have recorded as many as 3,384 known abductions. Total cases of known abductions of school children however stands at 5,545, but it is likely tobe higher than this. And these are Acholi killing Acholi sir. What exactly do you want the government to do, should we stop all government functions to go and protect Acholi from Acholi? Now just yesterday George Okello wrote about the piece Lucima posted some time and George claims that the people of Acholi and Madi have lived in peace all along and it is Museveni building cultural cleansing. Nonsense, because these people have been attacking themselves way long even before Museveni became active in the region. And Museveni is leading the entire country, are Japs also killing each other? Or you re stating that they have no land disputes in The Japs !!!! My friend we have some serious problem in some of our people that are not going to go away for Museveni is gone. When society decides to murder students as we have consistently witnessed in Africa lately, let us not blame Kenyatta sir. EM On the 49th Parallel Thé Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy" Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika machafuko" From: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com <mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com> [mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com <mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com> ] Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 7:31 PM To: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com <mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: {UAH} Garissa could have been avoided if we had learned from past attacks Mr. Mulindwa; There's nothing funny or uplifting in the killing of children. It's a tragedy all day long, whether the killers are Ugandans or Somalis. In an earlier posting, you rubbished the value of higher education or school systems in general, as if they have turned into incubators of terrorists. I find that kind of conclusion too far-fetched to fathom. Terrorists are not propelled by the education they get in classrooms; they are motivated by some ideology. So, there is no discernible profile of a terrorist, because they are psychopaths. Now, back to my frustration with President Kenyatta: If you had read or listened to news accounts about his response to the travel warnings issued by the British and Australian government just two days before the Garissa massacre, you would also fault his handling of this terror attacks. I also know that no one can adequately detect and thwart terror attacks everywhere, all the time. But Kenya had been victimized before, and therefore, it's incumbent upon the government to take all necessary steps to respond to such warnings. Pojim _____ From: Herrn Edward Mulindwa < <mailto:mulin...@look.ca> mulin...@look.ca> To: <mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com> ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com Cc: <mailto:uganda...@yahoogroups.com> uganda...@yahoogroups.com; <mailto:ugandanet@kym.net> ugandanet@kym.net Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2015 4:05 PM Subject: RE: {UAH} Garissa could have been avoided if we had learned from past attacks Edward Pojim You are frustrated at Uhuru’s government for failing to protect the students but not frustrated why Africans or any fighting group finds it funny to murder children? And this is not the first time I have seen this happening for Acholi murdered their own kids in Aboke. And you are stating that the fault is of African governments failing to protect the children than why do we murder our very own children? So what exactly do you want done sir? Put tanks on each African school for the parents are going to turn around and murder their very own kids? Do you actually know how many schools are in a country sir? What a childish pander ? Oh Boy !!!!!! EM On the 49th Parallel Thé Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy" Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika machafuko" From: <mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com> ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com [ <mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com> mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com] Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2015 6:51 PM To: Ugandans-at-heart Subject: {UAH} Garissa could have been avoided if we had learned from past attacks Folks; I share this writer's frustration with President Uhuru in particular and his security services in general. How the president casually dismissed specific travel warnings issued by the UK and Aussie governments talks volume about his state of mind. 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