Of course all of you were born in Kampala, and the moment UPC fell you all ended up in diaspora.
God save Uganda EM On the 49th Parallel Thé Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy" Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika machafuko" From: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com [mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Kamugisha Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 6:10 PM To: UG @ Heart Cc: Ugandan Discussion Forum; ugandanet@kym.net Subject: RE: {UAH} 'AMIN WAS MOST ACCESSIBLE PRESIDENT'----ANNE MUGISHA Mulimba: FYI, another dumping ground used to be along Lugogo ByPass. If you remember your Kampala well enough. BTW, i was born and raised in Entebbe until 1970 when my family moved to Kampala. Entebbe, was one of the most cleanest towns in Uganda. Jinja, Mbale were next in line. I can vividly remember cleaning trucks sweeping roads at night whenever we visited Kampala at night before the disruption of progress in Uganda on January 1971. Mulimba, i don't think you deserve being paid enough to defend naked lies do you? "....To lose one’s language, one’s history and one’s traditions is to lose one’s identity....." Kamugisha From: mulin...@look.ca <mailto:mulin...@look.ca> To: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com <mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com> CC: uganda...@yahoogroups.com <mailto:uganda...@yahoogroups.com> ; ugandanet@kym.net <mailto:ugandanet@kym.net> Subject: RE: {UAH} 'AMIN WAS MOST ACCESSIBLE PRESIDENT'----ANNE MUGISHA Date: Thu, 7 May 2015 17:43:42 -0400 Ocen Nekyon Are you standing in a public forum today to state that Uganda under Mayor Walusimbi Mpanga had trucks lifting garbage? Because that was the mayor of Kampala then, which I do not know if you knew for you were a toddler. I seriously expect you to be intelligent than that, like I can understand Kamugisha blowing his nonsense, but can you also register yourself publicly in a forum this large to state that Kampala city trucks that lift garbage bins were purchased under Obote one government? EM On the 49th Parallel Thé Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy" Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika machafuko" From: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com <mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com> [mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ocennek...@gmail.com <mailto:ocennek...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 3:40 PM To: Joseph Kamugisha; ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com <mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com> Cc: uganda...@yahoogroups.com <mailto:uganda...@yahoogroups.com> ; ugandanet@kym.net <mailto:ugandanet@kym.net> Subject: Re: {UAH} 'AMIN WAS MOST ACCESSIBLE PRESIDENT'----ANNE MUGISHA Ndugu Kamugisha: I think all EM needs is a hug because his ignorance has no bounds! Ocen Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Joseph Kamugisha Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2015 14:33 To: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com <mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com> Reply To: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com <mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com> Cc: uganda...@yahoogroups.com <mailto:uganda...@yahoogroups.com> ; ugandanet@kym.net <mailto:ugandanet@kym.net> Subject: RE: {UAH} 'AMIN WAS MOST ACCESSIBLE PRESIDENT'----ANNE MUGISHA Mulimba: The trucks were there before the '71 coup. Just like the rest of the systems, the trucks broke down and that was it. I lived in Kololo throughout the Amin regime. We had a dumping pit in our neighbourhood. If you don't remember that smuggling began with Amin and that your fellow henchman Bob Astles was head of the so called "Anti smuggling squad" along the showers of lake Victoria, how could you remember trash issues in Kampala when you were busy hunting for whom to hand over for torture and killing? BTW, Nassuru's decree of no sandals in Kampala was partly to paint a clean picture of Kampala to the heads of state who were destined for the defunct OAU summit in Kampala. That was the same time when shops along major Kampala roads were ordered not to display vegetables, fruits and other items in the windows. Uganda was in dire need of basic essential commodities. Nairobi was the London of Uganda during Amin era. Kamugisha _____ From: mulin...@look.ca <mailto:mulin...@look.ca> To: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com <mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com> CC: uganda...@yahoogroups.com <mailto:uganda...@yahoogroups.com> ; ugandanet@kym.net <mailto:ugandanet@kym.net> Subject: RE: {UAH} 'AMIN WAS MOST ACCESSIBLE PRESIDENT'----ANNE MUGISHA Date: Thu, 7 May 2015 10:36:08 -0400 Friends These are some reports that are written by special interests, I was in Uganda during all Amin’s time, it is simply insane for any one to write that there was a garbage problem in Uganda under Amin, the man introduced the lifting trucks that dumped bins all over the city {And Nekyon yes I know that was a plan of Mutesa one Amin just implemented it} and they were picked up daily. Kampala had one of the best picking systems in the region. The reason you see today dumps that are not moving is that when these friends came from Tanzania, UPC honchos stole the trucks and there is no longer the ability to lift them. And how would anyone pile garbage in Kampala under Nassur leadership? Let us kindly debate in earnest. Geez !!!!! EM On the 49th Parallel Thé Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy" Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika machafuko" From: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com <mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com> [mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Moses Ocen Nekyon Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 11:22 AM To: Herrn Edward Mulindwa; ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com <mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: {UAH} 'AMIN WAS MOST ACCESSIBLE PRESIDENT'----ANNE MUGISHA "I do not recall if my father came out to see him that particular time instead what I remember clearly is the time my father refused to come out on the President's orders. The economy was in ruins, essential commodities were hard to come by and civil servants were no longer earning enough. The new elite were the 'mafutamingi' or business men who run stores in the towns. Kampala City Council no longer collected garbage and we dug pits in our compounds to heap trash and burn it." (Anne Mugisha) Ocen Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Herrn Edward Mulindwa Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 04:32 To: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com <mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com> Reply To: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com <mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: {UAH} 'AMIN WAS MOST ACCESSIBLE PRESIDENT'----ANNE MUGISHA Now when you get a chance to talk to Uganda soldiers there was never and will never be an accessible CIC as Iddi Amin, this man needs to be understood for he is the only president some of us have seen walking into an army barracks, joins his soldiers and eat with them. What president does that in Uganda? Amin served food, and he ate on the same plates they ate on, he ate their food, he talked to them and asked the problem they had and he solved them. The man was an accessible president. When degree holders blew up the main power line in Mukono near Mpoma satellite, Amin transferred the entire state house to the location, built his tent and commanded the repairs himself. Amin actually lived in Mukono at site for almost two weeks. They installed temporary wood poles made the line go back up and power ran through, then they started to rebuild the Steele towers when he is blinking at the site. He instructed Uganda hotels to cook food for the workers and food was available at site on a daily basis. Go to Uganda and blow that pole today see if it will ever be restored. But do you know why he did all that? Because unlike the degree holders that made Uganda out of power nationally, Iddi Amin believed that we had a right to have power. Do you know how many Acholi invaded Kayunga when Obote was to visit? 20 firkin trucks, half the town was arrested for they were arresting any one that talked against UPC or Obote. Sometimes actually Obote moved in an army bus when the convoy goes empty. On record I need any one that ever saw Obote visiting a place un announced and sit with people to chat. Tell me when Obote visited a school without a massive deployment of soldiers. If you were a kid in school, drop going after Iddi Amin. EM On the 49th Parallel Thé Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy" Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika machafuko" From: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com <mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com> [mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of rahimu jabendo Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 4:15 AM To: uganda-muslim-brothers-and-sisters Cc: ugandans-at-heart; Jonny Rubin; Kale Kayihura Subject: {UAH} 'AMIN WAS MOST ACCESSIBLE PRESIDENT'----ANNE MUGISHA Ironically, of all Uganda's presidents Idi Amin was the most accessible. Amin was known to drive around Kampala in his open roof car that looked like a Jeep wrangler. There was a time that he dropped off his kids at our school like a regular Dad and a time he came to swim at the International Hotel when we were in the water but this time we were chased out for the big man. The first time I saw his tall towering figure was in the early 70s when he declared war against all forms of imperialism leading to the title CBE or conqueror of the British Empire. His war included many activities including being transported in a made-for-purpose chair on the shoulders of four Caucasian men. I saw him on the day he renamed Kampala's streets dropping all names with English or colonial connotations and renaming them to honor African Heroes and Statesmen. I lived on Queens Road until that morning when the Field Marshall decided to rename it Lumumba Avenue. And to mark the auspicious occasion, Idi Amin decided to take a stroll from one end of the Road at the roundabout behind the High Court to the end where Lumumba Avenue runs into Kyadondo Rd. All residents were expected to be outside to greet the President as he passed by. We lined the Road and waited. Sure enough at the appointed time the towering figure in military uniform approached No. 56 Lumumba Avenue. He extended his hand to residents greeting and waved and continued past our home. I do not recall if my father came out to see him that particular time instead what I remember clearly is the time my father refused to come out on the President's orders. The economy was in ruins, essential commodities were hard to come by and civil servants were no longer earning enough. The new elite were the 'mafutamingi' or business men who run stores in the towns. Kampala City Council no longer collected garbage and we dug pits in our compounds to heap trash and burn it. So one day Amin declared war against garbage with the slogan 'Keep your City Clean.' All able bodied men, women and children were to go on their street and sweep, clean the garbage. Oversight of this exercise was to be managed by the army. Now if you lived in Kampala in those days, you knew that there was a Governor called Nassur a military officer who enforced city regulations ruthlessly. One time he banned wearing rubber slippers in the city and those who flouted the rule were caught and made to eat their slippers. So when my Dad declared that he would not participate in 'Keep your City Clean,' my mother was a nervous wreck. She begged him to come out but my Dad decided to take this small act of rebellion seriously - probably the only time I knew him to rebel for any reason. He turned on his radio and stayed in the house while the rest of us went to fight the war against garbage. The day past without incident and my Dad had his small victory against dictatorship. At 50 I know that growing under a dictatorship has defined my world outlook and given me an exaggerated sensitivity to human rights abuse and bad governance. -- "War is nothing but a continuation of political intercourse, with a mixture of other means. 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