> On 26 Mar 2014, at 17:53, "Paul Thornton" <p...@prt.org> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 26/03/2014 17:44, Aled Morris wrote:
>> 
>> Especially since the distinction between a switch and a router is being
>> eroded.
> 
> This.  When is a switch a router and a router a switch these days?
> 
>> But I think I feel the same shudder that Neil does when someone suggests
>> out loud that they are connecting L2 devices to the fabric :-)
> 
> Same here.  I think one of the key things to not get wrong is "whatever you 
> do, don't allow your L2 loop prevention protocol (which may be on by default) 
> to leak out towards the exchange".  Of course most exchanges now are much 
> better at filtering this than in the past - mainly because the vendors 
> finally implemented features we'd been asking about having for years.

Did they? I think other changes made this work! 

> 
> But back to the original question, media converters in a network can be a 
> real pain to troubleshoot as they are usually unmanaged or very lightly 
> managed... but we've all had times where we've had to put them in the network 
> somewhere.  Be prepared to blame a media converter first without much 
> evidence if you're going to use


I'll be trendy and say "that!" 

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