On 10/09/2015 14:59, Neil J. McRae wrote:
> What absolute codswallop.

+1 for maintaining a managed NID option - we are a niche ISP and don't enjoy a 
large FTTC estate - We have insufficient scale to test and deploy large no's of 
early day buggy FTTC modems - generally the only USP left to smaller ISP's is 
providing excellent levels of support for the customer and the removal of the 
FTTC modem will only serve to decrease the reliability, create bad feeling 
between the customer and the ISP and increase fault resolution times.

I fully understand the need for a wires-only unmanaged FTTC service for the 
mass consumer market however our customers are looking for reliability over the 
savings this "improved method" could ever offer - we will now have to decide on 
a reasonable quality, always in stock, reliable modem - something which in the 
early days of ADSL was hard to come by - IMO (for what it is worth) Openreach 
should see sense and realise there is actually a reasonable business case to 
provide a chargeable add-on to standard FTTC that would include a managed 
installation/modem and stronger SLA - certainly most business customers would 
consider this and therefore allow Openreach to maintain the all too valuable 
income stream from this base.

If such an option was to appear OR would need to ensure this is fully delivered 
end to end within Openreach ensuring the issues that BTW EFM suffers from are 
avoided (where too often EFM faults bounce between Wholesale (equipment/cables) 
and Openreach (LLU) with each bounce suffering a day of delay)  <- Is this not 
the argument for keeping a managed FTTC NID when two companies in BT Group 
(albeit "separate")  cannot line their ducks up to solve simple copper line 
fault issues - what hope does an external untrusted party like us have.

Openreach have an excellent pedigree in offering tiered SLAs and the removal of 
the CPE leads me to question whether Openreach continue to view FTTC as a 
business grade option with future enhancements in this area - putting this into 
context would Openreach ever entertain removing the NID for an EAD service and 
consider this as a workable solution?

Andy

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