Hi Janak Well, then we are at least two who do not know much about Citrix :-)
It will be scenario 1. Kind regards Michael ivyTeam AG Alpenstrasse 9 CH-6304 Zug Telefon: +41 (0)58 666 34 34 Fax: +41 (0)58 666 34 00 e-mail: [email protected] www: http://www.soreco.ch soreco swiss business software since 1988 -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Janak Mulani Gesendet: Montag, 25. Januar 2010 13:32 An: [email protected] Betreff: RE: [ULC-developer] ULC client side on Citrix Hi Michael, I don't know much about Citrix but the scenario you describe - running ULC client in cirtix's virtual OS - should be possible. The question is how will you deploy the ULC client: Scenario1: Citrix client -> Citrix server with JRE and JWS to start ULC JNLP Client -> ULC App on server Scenario 2: Citrix client -> Citrix server which runs ULC App in Standalone mode (See chapter 3 of ULC Deployment Guide). Thanks and regards, Janak ----------------------------------------- Janak Mulani email: [email protected] url: http://www.canoo.com Beyond AJAX - Java Rich Internet Applications http://www.canoo.com/ulc ----------------------------------------- > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Michael Dänzer > Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:56 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ULC-developer] ULC client side on Citrix > > Hello Janak > > I agree that running ULC server side makes no sense on Citrix. > > But we were asked to run ULC client side (the UI side) on > Citrix by a client which works with thin clients and run > everything within Citrix Desktop Virtualization. They do not > want to install jre on clients and applets are strictly prohibited. > > As far as I understand Citrix it offers for each user a > virtual OS (on the Citrix server) which are strictly > separated. And I guess that every virtual OS has its own > display and its own IP address. So, on the virtual OS the ULC > UI is displayed and then transferred over the Citrix protocol > (which most probably is framebuffer based too). > > Given the restrictions of the customer (no jre, no applets on > client machine), this sounds suitable scenario for me. But > before going back to the customer, I want go sure if this is > appropriate or not. > > Kind regards > Michael > > Hi Michael, > > I cannot see a scenario where it would make sense to run a ULC-based > application on a Citrix server. Please let me know of the scenario you > were thinking of. > > Running the server part of a ULC-based application on a > Citrix terminal > server makes little sense > because ULC follows an entirely different approach to Citrix. > ULC runs in > "Headless" mode on the server so as far as ULC server is > concerned there > is nothing for Citirx to display! > > Citrix runs an application's entire image on the server and > communicates > with the client-side display engine on the level of > framebuffers, i.e. on > the level of pixels. The server maintains the entire UI including the > visual representation. > > ULC runs a "faceless" UI on the server side that represents > its objects on > the level of (logical) widgets. The communication between client and > server works on the level of (logical) widgets and not on the level of > framebuffers. > > It is the ULC Client that renders the GUI of the ULC > application on the > server. If Citrix wants to show ULC GUI then it should be > connecting to > ULC client which in turn is connected to ULC app on server. > So you can see > that such a scenario does not make sense at all. > > > Thanks and regards, > > Janak > > ----------------------------------------- > Janak Mulani > > email: [email protected] > url: http://www.canoo.com <http://www.canoo.com/> > > Beyond AJAX - Java Rich Internet Applications > > http://www.canoo.com/ulc > ----------------------------------------- > ________________________________ > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Michael Dänzer > Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 7:20 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ULC-developer] ULC client side on Citrix > > > Hello all > > Does anybody have experiences with ULC on the client side on > Citrix? We got a customer request for that. I guess it should not be > problematic, but one never knows J > > Kind regards > > Michael Dänzer > > ivyTeam AG > Alpenstrasse 9 > CH-6304 Zug > > Telefon: +41 (0)58 666 34 34 > > Fax: +41 (0)58 666 34 00 > e-mail: [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > www: http://www.soreco.ch <http://www.soreco.ch/> > > soreco swiss business software since 1988 > _______________________________________________ > ULC-developer mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.canoo.com/mailman/listinfo/ulc-developer > _______________________________________________ ULC-developer mailing list [email protected] http://lists.canoo.com/mailman/listinfo/ulc-developer _______________________________________________ ULC-developer mailing list [email protected] http://lists.canoo.com/mailman/listinfo/ulc-developer
