Hmmm...  I never previously noticed the button in the bottom right corner of 
the Amarok small player window.  Until you hit that button, it's still WAY too 
big for me, but after hitting that button and disabling window decorations, 
it's only about twice as big as my existing xmms window.  It could still be 
shrunk down much further, but I can deal with it as is.

I guess perhaps the tray is part of my problem - I don't like trays, so I don't 
use one.  I guess most apps assume you'll use a tray applet if you want to 
shrink it down really tiny...  I would prefer to have a tiny window instead of 
an app that requires a tray to dock in.

Perhaps it's showing my age, but I was momentarily shocked and appalled when I 
saw that installing Amarok would use 107MB of disk space (I don't use many 
(any?) KDE apps, so it had to install a lot of libraries) ... it took me a few 
seconds to remember that the smallest drive I own is 100GB, so 107MB isn't a 
big deal anymore...  I guess I'm mentally still stuck in the days of 1GB or 
smaller system drives... *sigh*

Anyway, thanks for the suggestion!
-Paul

On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 09:32:43AM -0400, Erik Ramseth wrote:
> Amarok does have a small player window.  Click on Settings > Show Player 
> Window.
> 
> It can even compact down farther and it has a button to hide and show
> the main playlist window from the player window.
> 
> Personally, I've become accustomed to using Amarok in the tray and
> using media keys on my keyboard to control it.  If I remember
> correctly, there is also a kicker applet (if, in fact, you are using
> KDE) which puts buttons on your task bar to control Amarok, BMP, XMMS,
> etc.  Maybe worth looking into.
> 
> -Erik
> 
> > Date:    Tue, 7 Aug 2007 11:02:37 -0400
> > From:    Paul Donohue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: Old man looks for mp3 playing software
> >
> > > Thanks for the tip -- It looks like (by design) an iTunes replacement,
> > > which is good to know about but I kindof liked the 10 pixel button
> > > setup of xmms.  Also, apparently the version of rhythmbox installed on
> >
> > I too like the 10-pixel button setup of xmms.  Perhaps I just haven't 
> > looked hard enough for the right configuration options, but all of the 
> > non-xmms-derivative players that I've tried don't seem to have (or have a 
> > very crappy) compact mode.  All I really want is 5 buttons, a song title, 
> > the ability to change the volume with my mouse scroll wheel, and a fast way 
> > to bring up the big user interface.  This can be done in 10 vertical 
> > pixels, so I'd like it to be.  I don't particularly care if the big user 
> > interface is ugly ... I wonder why more players don't support a skin-able 
> > compact mode even if they don't support a skin-able big user interface.
> >
> > So, I've been using audacious recently.  Does anyone know of any 
> > non-xmms-derived players that do have a decent compact mode?  I like the 
> > added capabilities of many of the other players I've seen.  I just wish 
> > they didn't take up so much of my screen real estate all the time.
> 

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