How would the hairline fracture explain the remedy of suspending and
resuming the laptop?

On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Dmitry Dagunts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> In agreement with Charles, If it's just one USB connector that stops
> working you may be able to trace the paths nearby, but since you are loosing
> all of your USB connectors, I think the assumption of a hairline crack is
> more probable.  Unfortunately, I would imagine this crack to be somewhere
> close to the southbridge on the motherboard and not anywhere near the USB
> connectors themselves.  I too doubt this can be easily traced/fixed.
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Charles Cranston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> My best thought is you have a hairline crack on the motherboard, and when
>> you flex the machine just-so, it bends the motherboard such that the crack
>> opens.  But first I would take a look at where the USB connector is
>> connected to the motherboard, because often the mechanical stress of
>> plugging and unplugging, or even displacing the USB plug up and down while
>> connected, is enough to cause that solder joint to fail.  With single or
>> double sided boards one can bridge such a crack with a small piece of wire,
>> but most complex circuit boards are multi-layer these days, and are
>> essentially unrepairable by the layman.  However, if it's just the USB
>> connector, you might be able to carefully solder it back.
>>
>>
>> On Dec 7, 2008, at 1:24 PM, Ed Kohlwey wrote:
>>
>>  Hi Everyone,
>>> As some of the group regulars know I've been having problems with my
>>> laptop "flipping out" lately. When pressure is applied to the case in a
>>> certain way, anything connected on USB stops working, and I get a slew
>>> of errors in dmesg (attached below). The computer will also refuse to
>>> boot the first 20 or so times that I hit the power button after such an
>>> event. To get it to turn back on I have to shake it, disconnect the
>>> power supply, etc. a few times. The really weird thing is that I can
>>> negate the effects of the "flip out" by suspending and resuming the
>>> laptop before a complete power down (at least this seems to work
>>> consistently, I'm not completely sure if this is actually connected or
>>> not).
>>>
>>> My first intuition was that it might be a short, so I opened up my case
>>> and covered most of the bare metal with either plastic or electrical
>>> tape. For a while, the computer would also turn itself off, and the
>>> electrical tape fix seems to have at least remedied that behavior.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any ideas on how to troubleshoot this sort of issue? It
>>> seems almost certain to me that its electrical in nature, but short of
>>> what I've done I don't really have any ideas.
>>>
>>> -Ed
>>>
>>>
>>> ====================================================================
>>> [ 2437.744104] usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 2
>>> [ 2438.052062] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
>>> address 3
>>> [ 2438.172170] usb 1-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71
>>> [ 2438.396053] usb 1-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71
>>> [ 2438.612070] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
>>> address 4
>>> [ 2438.732056] usb 1-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71
>>> [ 2438.956131] usb 1-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71
>>> [ 2439.172058] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
>>> address 5
>>> [ 2439.580046] usb 1-1: device not accepting address 5, error -71
>>> [ 2439.692043] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
>>> address 6
>>> [ 2440.104051] usb 1-1: device not accepting address 6, error -71
>>> [ 2440.105410] hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1
>>> [ 2440.106752] hub 3-0:1.0: port 1 disabled by hub (EMI?),
>>> re-enabling...
>>> [ 2440.106763] usb 3-1: USB disconnect, address 5
>>> [ 2440.107160] btusb_intr_complete: hci0 urb ffff880074099600 failed to
>>> resubmit (19)
>>> [ 2440.111402] btusb_send_frame: hci0 urb ffff880060b29cc0 submission
>>> failed
>>> [ 2440.600069] usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
>>> address 6
>>> [ 2440.720071] usb 3-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71
>>> [ 2440.944056] usb 3-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71
>>> [ 2441.160051] usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
>>> address 7
>>> [ 2441.280063] usb 3-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71
>>> [ 2441.504071] usb 3-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71
>>> [ 2441.720060] usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
>>> address 8
>>> [ 2442.128053] usb 3-1: device not accepting address 8, error -71
>>> [ 2442.240052] usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
>>> address 9
>>> [ 2442.648041] usb 3-1: device not accepting address 9, error -71
>>> [ 2442.649393] hub 3-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1
>>>
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-- 
Neil Sikka

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