Not bootable ISOs. We need only bootable VM. Make sense? For instance,
download the VM in a bundle zip and run Virtual Player or Virtualbox and
run it.
Important note: the main goal of this package is to bundle our Desktop
Agent. So please, don't remove the developer tools.
On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Narendran Thangarajan <
[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks Luis. Apart from the size, the "System Image" tool of Windows
> itself is meant for a different purpose. It just takes a backup of the disk
> drive, and so its not bootable. But our end-users will need a bootable disk
> as an ISO file.
> So we need a tool like Remastersys in the Linux world, which is used for
> making new distros. I couldn't find any such tool for Windows yet (maybe
> due to its proprietary nature).
>
> Thanks,
> Narendran.
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Luis A. Bastiao Silva
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Well, when you create the disk, you can pre-allocate the space, or you
>> can ajust it dynamically. For us, the second are the best option.
>>
>> Moreover, you also can compress the VM (vmx and vmdk).
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Narendran Thangarajan <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> There are a couple of problems with the vmdk image created
>>>
>>> 1. System image creation in Windows 7 doesn't take a bootable image
>>> of the system. Just creates a replica of the C: drive in vhd format.
>>> 2. Even if its made usable, Its huge in size - 49 GB
>>>
>>> Has anyone tried this before? Please suggest a tool for creating
>>> bootable snapshots of Windows 7 VMs. The working instance is running on
>>> VMWare player now.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Narendran.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 6:23 PM, Narendran Thangarajan <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes I have set that.
>>>> Now I am trying to create a System image from the windows machine. I am
>>>> using Windows 7's backup feature to create the image. It creates a system
>>>> image in vhd format. I am now converting it into vmdk format to check if it
>>>> can work with VMWare too. I am using WinImage for this.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Narendran.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Luis A. Bastiao Silva <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In config file, conf/agent.cfg, use_gui = False
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:59 PM, Adriano Marques
>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> There is the option of running agent without using gtk. Make sure you
>>>>>> build it so that it always use that option, and gtk won't be a problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Narendran Thangarajan <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The gtk dependency is pulled in by
>>>>>>> SoftwareUpdate.py<https://github.com/umitproject/openmonitor-desktop-agent/blob/master/umit/icm/agent/gui/SoftwareUpdate.py#L20>during
>>>>>>> the the check version flow in
>>>>>>> aggregator.py<https://github.com/umitproject/openmonitor-desktop-agent/blob/master/umit/icm/agent/rpc/aggregator.py#L505>.
>>>>>>> Should we just conditionally drop the gtk dependency only on Windows, in
>>>>>>> which case we need some code changes to be done wherever gtk is pulled
>>>>>>> in..
>>>>>>> Alternatively, we can ignore this error and go ahead with bundling
>>>>>>> since it doesn't affect the functionality of the desktop agent. ie. the
>>>>>>> reports are sent to aggregator and I can see the alert on east1.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Narendran.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Adriano Marques <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Try to drop the gtk dependency. Trying to get gtk on windows, and
>>>>>>>> in a bundle is a huge PAIN.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 6:21 AM, Narendran Thangarajan <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Adriano and Luis,
>>>>>>>>> Based on the stats from
>>>>>>>>> wikipedia<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems>
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> w3schools <http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp>, I
>>>>>>>>> feel Windows 7 will be the best choice as it is holds the largest
>>>>>>>>> usage
>>>>>>>>> share. So I am starting with the Windows 7 VM. Currently I have setup
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> Win7 VM in VMWare, installed the required dependencies and have the
>>>>>>>>> desktop
>>>>>>>>> agent working talking to the east1 instance. But I see a couple of
>>>>>>>>> issues
>>>>>>>>> while running the desktop agent :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * 1. Aggregator failure: [Failure instance: Traceback: <type
>>>>>>>>> 'exceptions.ImportError'>: No module named gtk (Happens just once
>>>>>>>>> during
>>>>>>>>> the desktop agent startup)*
>>>>>>>>> [ERROR] - 2013-06-06 16:33:04,125 - Aggregator failure: [Failure
>>>>>>>>> instance: Traceback: <type 'exceptions.ImportError'>: No module named
>>>>>>>>> gtk
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> C:\Python27\lib\site-packages\twisted\internet\tcp.py:299:connectionLost
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> C:\Python27\lib\site-packages\twisted\web\client.py:206:connectionLost
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> C:\Python27\lib\site-packages\twisted\internet\defer.py:380:callback
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> C:\Python27\lib\site-packages\twisted\internet\defer.py:488:_startRunCallbacks
>>>>>>>>> --- <exception caught here> ---
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> C:\Python27\lib\site-packages\twisted\internet\defer.py:575:_runCallbacks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> C:\Users\narendran\Downloads\openmonitor-desktop-agent\openmonitor-desktop-agent\umit\icm\agent\rpc\aggregator.py:505:_handle_check_version_response
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> C:\Users\narendran\Downloads\openmonitor-desktop-agent\openmonitor-desktop-agent\umit\icm\agent\gui\SoftwareUpdate.py:20:<module>
>>>>>>>>> ]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2. *Malformed message received. Connection tear down. (Multiple
>>>>>>>>> occurrences after the AuthenticatePeer phase)*
>>>>>>>>> [WARNING] - 2013-06-06 16:33:05,608 - Malformed message received.
>>>>>>>>> Connection tear down. IPv4Address(TCP, u'210.210.41.202', 80)
>>>>>>>>> HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request
>>>>>>>>> Cache-Control: no-cache
>>>>>>>>> Pragma: no-cache
>>>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
>>>>>>>>> Connection: close
>>>>>>>>> Content-Length: 713
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Once we solve these two issues, the Windows snapshot VM will be
>>>>>>>>> usable.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Narendran.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:06 PM, Adriano Marques <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Great idea Narendran! What windows version are you going to use?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Luis A. Bastiao Silva <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Narendran,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Did you get any progress with it? Probably during the bundling
>>>>>>>>>>> there are several issues that will raise. Please, keep us posted
>>>>>>>>>>> and keep
>>>>>>>>>>> the discussion in the loop.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:19 PM, Narendran Thangarajan <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I discussed with Luis regarding bundling of desktop agent so
>>>>>>>>>>>> that its easier to use for our users. Following are the steps
>>>>>>>>>>>> which I have
>>>>>>>>>>>> identified as the top level activities involved in bundling.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Create a plain Windows VM.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Install the required dependencies for OpenMonitor
>>>>>>>>>>>> desktop agent.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Get the desktop agent to run on the VM.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Prepare a vdx or vdmk file so that end-users can use it
>>>>>>>>>>>> like a snapshot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know if you have suggestions around this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Narendran Thangarajan.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>> Skype: koplabs
>>>>> http://www.bastiao.org
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>>>>
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