In a message dated 2001-03-23 4:50:21 Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > That Sarasvati wants to do things her way is fine by me. That she made > me log into the Internet, launch my browser, just to get to the mockery > of the poll.html and no Democratic-Process, is a slap in the face. The > Consortium is as arrogant as ever. I don't normally complain publicly about e-mail and mailing list conventions and inconveniences, since my e-mail software is usually the weak link anyway, but I have to agree with Adam and pretty much everyone else about some of the new "improvements" to the list. The [unicode] tag doesn't do anything for me except obscure the actual Subject: line. And there is the problem somebody mentioned with "Re: [unicode] Re: [unicode] Re:..." We have that problem at work with cc:Mail, where we sometimes get messages titled "Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd:..." Maybe this new convention benefits Sarasvati in some way, but I don't recall anyone else asking for it. The quotational limit enforcement may sound like a good idea at first, to discourage overlong quotes and "Me too" messages, but concrete bot-enforced limits will create more problems. Earlier this week I wrote an e-mail at work that quoted about 25 lines from two other people's messages and added about 7 lines of my own. The quotes were carefully chosen and 100% germane to my response, which I edited carefully to avoid needless verbosity (for once!). It was really a very nice e-mail. It would have been rejected under the new Unicode list policies, because of the 30 lines-65% rule, and I would have been forced to filibuster my response to please the bot. I never used to complain about (e.g.) the lack of a digest mode, even though I receive digests on almost all my other mailing lists, because there was a valid technical reason for it. These latest changes, in contrast, seem to have been made and deemed unchangeable for arbitrary reasons, just to prove that Sarasvati is in charge. I will *not* be unsubscribing to the Unicode list to protest these changes, but count me as one more unhappy camper. -Doug Ewell Fullerton, California