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By this message I
would like to begin a discussion (if it would be found appropriate here and
hasn’t been done earlier) about the rules of writing initials in various
scripts. To make it clearer I’ll try to describe our everyday problems for
Russian names and their transliterations in References and Bibliographies. I
would be very grateful if someone could answer me then any of the following
questions: 1) What are the
rules for writing initials in your own language? 2) Are there any
differences in rules for writing initials of foreign and domestic
names? 3) Do you use
different types of transliteration in different types of
documents? 4) Does your
grammar prohibit Russian-like rules for writing initials (i.e. may we apply our
rules for initials when we write articles in your
language)? 5) Is the problem
of line breaking and “soft space” (as described below) relevant for your
language? Definition for
Russian initials: An initial is the first letter of the first name with a period
after it like “A.” in “A.Sokolov”. Initials are: the first letter of the first
name and the first letter of the patronymic name with a period after each of
them like “A.V.” in “A.V.Sokolov”. (Letter N will be used to show format like
N.N.Nn…n). These rules are applied not only to Cyrillic, but to other
transliteration scripts too. Variants like N.
N. Nn…n, N.N. Nn…n with spaces between initials and the last name can be found.
But nowadays spaceless form N.N.Nn…n is used more often. Thus we get to N.[
][N.[ ]]Nn…n. Some
people with rare names like Vsevolod prefer two or more letters of their names
to be shown in order not to be mixed up with frequent names like
In Bibliographies
the books are sorted by last names, so there we can see Nn…n[,] N[n].[ ][N[n].[
]] with optional commas after the last name. It is not allowed
to break the line after the first initial like
this: N. N.Nn…n. But it is common
to break the line after the second one like this: N.N. Nn…n. The last case can
be simulated as N[n].[ ][N[n].[ |CR]]Nn…n. In such cases hyphens adjacent to CR
are not allowed. Foreign
names are usually initialed in the same way. Tomas Alva Edison becomes
T.A.Edison. The exception is letter “J” because it represents two phonemes from
the point of view of Russian phonetics. John Reed is shortened to Дж.Рид in
Cyrillic script. I suspect that something else is meant by initials in
English. My Webster's dictionary says that initial
is: a) the first letter of a
name; b) pl: the first letter of each word in a full
name. Nothing is mentioned about spaces and periods, no
examples are provided. During registration some applications ask the user to
enter initials. In this field usually “N.N.” is not accepted neither in
Cyrillic, nor in Latin (I have not tried Arabic). It is difficult to guess what
format is expected. Are there English standards for initials? Are there
international rules for that? Format “NN” in applications is accepted instead,
but that’s a mistake from the point of view of Russian
rules. In diplomatic and
consular affairs Russian names must be transliterated in a French-oriented way,
otherwise they are English transliterated. For instance, the name “Ч.Айтматов” can look like
“Tch.Aytmatov” in foreign passport, which will be normally equal to
“Ch.Aytmatov” in Bibliography. It is convenient to put after Russian initials some zero
width control character that can be called “Soft Space”. It must act like Soft
Hyphen (i.e. not effective in the middle of a line, but allowing line breaking),
and must be invisible at the edge of the line. Is there such a character in
Unicode? Can it be found in text processors? Now we have to do the required line
breaking manually. It is not wise to overload hyphenation rules with it, because
language-independent direct control of this feature for all scripts is
needed. Thank
you in advance,
Vladimir
Ivanov
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