----- Message d'origine ----- De: "Peter Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On 28/07/2003 05:34, Karljürgen Feuerherm wrote: [earlier, vey nested, difficult to ascribe to one of the subscribers] > >>>England was never ruled by the French! Please! 1066 and all that stuff ! > >>> > > > >I dunno, William Conqueror the Duke of Normandy sounds pretty French to me :-) > >(Of course it's a good question when do 'France' and 'French' begin.) Usually said to begin with the Capétiens (987) and Hugues the First. Before that, people tend to speak of the Franks (Western Franks after the Strasbourg/Strassburg Oath). First historical record of « Français » (franceis) in 1080 (Chanson de Roland) means « Frank, nobleman or a subject of the King of France». Other terms were also used : franc, francor (as a genitif : la langue francor), françal. > >2. I'm a 'French-speaking Canadian' and if you asked me, I'd tell you I was > >French. Because I am. So you can't ask 'any ....' > > > >(my contribution to this pedantic thread) > > > >K > > > > > I would never have guessed from your name! [PA] How about my name ? Patrick Andries (Irish and Dutch forms of Latin and Greek roots !) - o - 0 - 0 - o - Unicode en français http://pages.infinit.net/hapax
