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----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael (michka) Kaplan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mark Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 18:32 Subject: Re: [indic] Re: Unicode Collation Algorithm: 4.0 Update (beta) > These collation tables have one and only one of the following two problems: > > A) If these are intended to be language-specific tailorings then a strong > warning about the linguistic inapplicabilty needs to be added, since the > data is actually incorrect for the use of most of these scripts. > > B) If these tables are just intended to be another view of the default > table, outlining the data by script, then this information should be more > prominently explained. > > I suspect that the issue is the one outlined in (B) meaning it is just > better explaining what the data is meant to be, but I have had many > customers claim to me that "Unicode does not understand their > language/script" because they assumed that the issue was as outlined in (A). B is the case; this is simply a different view of the UCA. > > Assuming that it is (B), this problem is unfortunately exacerbated by the > many times that the language name == the script name (e.g. in Tamil, > Bengali, and many others). Having the items on the left called out at the > top as SCRIPTS rather than LANGUAGES would probably help with that issue > (though some people do not distinguish even when the difference is explained > clearly). Note, this is not a new page, just an update of an existing. However, your comments are good. > > Of course there is the issue that the UTS does not really seem reference > this page, but maybe there is a reference somewhere else that is a bit more > of a challenge to find. :-) They are linked on http://www.unicode.org/charts/. We can add a link in the UTS. Maybe in http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr10/tr10-10.html#Common_Misperceptions -- what do you think? > > MichKa > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 5:37 PM > Subject: [indic] Re: Unicode Collation Algorithm: 4.0 Update (beta) > > > > There are also beta collation charts in: > > > > http://www.unicode.org/charts/collation/beta/ > > > > Mark > > __________________________________ > > http://www.macchiato.com > > ► “Eppur si muove” ◄ > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rick McGowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 19:27 > > Subject: Unicode Collation Algorithm: 4.0 Update (beta) > > > > > > > The Unicode Technical Committee would like to announce availability of > the > > > beta Default Unicode Collation Element Table for UCA 4.0. Feedback is > > > invited. > > > > > > The primary goal of this release is to synchronize the repertoire of > > > strings for collation (sorting) with the repertoire of Unicode 4.0. For > > > future versions of the Unicode Standard that add characters, there will > > > also be versions of the UCA tables with synchronized repertoire. > > > > > > A small number of additional changes have been made for consistency in > > > treatment of new and old characters; however, other changes await > working > > > with SC22/WG2 so that future versions of ISO 14651 and UCA can be > > > synchronized. > > > > > > The relevant data file is found here: > > > > > > http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr10/allkeys-4.0.0d1.txt > > > > > > Please also look at the corresponding proposed update version of Unicode > > > Technical Standard #10, The Unicode Collation Algorithm: > > > > > > http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr10/tr10-10.html > > > > > > Due to production difficulties, the beta period for this is quite short; > > > comments for this version must be submitted by end of day, August 26, > 2003. > > > However, comments directed to the next version can be submitted after > this > > > date. Please submit feedback with the reporting form at: > > > > > > http://www.unicode.org/reporting.html > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rick McGowan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
