----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Yes, you are right, and using a very British hyperbole. The TUS 4.0 glyph is quite simply incorrect. That is, it is incorrect for the Azerbaijani, Khakass and Nogai letter, and it does not make a proper distinction from the otherwise almost identical "b". The glyph should have the same height as most lower case letters. See http://www.writingsystems.net/languages/nogai/nogailatin.htm, http://www.writingsystems.net/languages/khakass/khakasslatin.htm, http://www.writingsystems.net/languages/azeri/azerilatin2.htm.
To: "Philippe Verdy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Unicode Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: unicode Digest V4 #3
Peter Kirk wrote,
I note an incorrect glyph for U+0185 in Code2000 and in Arial Unicode MS; this looks like b with no serif at the bottom but should be much shorter, like Ñ, the Cyrillic soft sign. The Arial Unicode MS glyph for U+04BB is also incorrect - it should look identical to Latin h - but this problem is well known.
No comment on U+04BB. With regards to U+0185, could it be said that the informative glyph in TUS 2.0, 3.0 and 4.0 is a bit misleading, or does that glyph represent a variance from the text(s) with which you're familiar?
In this Chuang text, the glyph is much shorter than that of "b" and so adequately distinguished, although still slightly higher than most lower case letters.http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0180.pdf Magnify U0180.pdf to 400% and put the row 0185 - 0195 - 01A5 towards the top of the screen so that the top of U+0185 touches the screen area border. Note that the top of U+0185 aligns with the top of U+0195, suggesting that these glyphs would have the same height.
In THE LANGUAGES OF THE WORLD by Kenneth Katzner (1975), the example for Chuang seems to show a glyph covering U+0185 as you describe. (page 212)
This page uses a scan from THE LANGUAGES OF THE WORLD as its Chuang example: http://www.worldlanguage.com/Languages/Chuang.htm
I conclude that the same glyph can be used for Chuang and Azerbaijani, but it needs to be significantly shorter than the Unicode reference glyph.
-- Peter Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) http://www.qaya.org/
