At 10:21 AM 11/14/2004, Doug Ewell wrote:
Throughout all of this, I had completely missed the fact that the Tech
Note for CESU-8 had been upgraded to a Tech Report, two and a half years
ago, in fact. Perhaps I was in denial. Anyway, that ... invalidates many of my comments...

Noted.

CESU-8 is the documentation of someone's internal, non-standard
implementation of UTF-8.  Of course, the "someone" is large and
important and their implementation affects a lot of users.  If nobody
else is motivated by the presence of UTR #26 to adopt this non-standard
version, good.

There are some UTF-8/UTF-16 interoperability aspects that are addressed by CESU-8. These concerns are real, and affect multi-component architectures that must interchange data across component boundaries. Therefore a standard specification serves a useful purpose.

What worries me is that there might be other people in the world like
Philippe

Phillippe doesn't worry me ;-)

While we're on the subject of UTNs, I think it's a shame that BOCU-1, a
genuinely novel and potentially useful compression scheme that was
invented from scratch, is only documented in a "no-endorsement" UTN,
when a draft UTR-upgrade that adds a white-box algorithm was written
almost a year ago but has not been approved.  This places BOCU-1 *below*
CESU-8 in the food chain, which seems badly wrong.

You realize that the choice of material for a UTN rests with the authors.
Occasionally that will mean that material that could be a formal specification is placed into a UTN by an author uninterested in getting UTC endorsement, or one that lacks the time to pursue such.


In the case of BOCU-1 it's the latter, as the UTC has welcomed the idea of putting this on a standards track.

So, your remarks should be directed at the authors of the UTN, and/or the owners of the relevant technology.

A./




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