On 06/12/2004 00:54, Chris Jacobs wrote:

It may appear to your eyes to be an abuse of the orthography, just as to
others's eyes the distinct Qamats Qatan which you proposed seems to be
an abuse of the orthography. Nevertheless, both these kinds of
discrepancies and Qamats Qatan are actually used in a significant number
of publications. Indeed the blended Qere/Ketiv forms are in nearly every
Hebrew Bible written or printed over more than 1000 years. They may be
"abnormal" in some sense, but this is no argument for them not being
representable in Unicode.



I don't believe this!

Blending qere with ketiv in such a way that you can exacly tell which vowel 
goes with which consonant, that you distinguish between
either two vowels below the first consonant or one of the two as a lonely vowel 
before the word, seems to me an artefact of the
printing technique.

Are there copies of written text where this can be checked?

Copies of more than 1000 years old text would be ideal since that cannot 
imitate print.



This is ture, more or less. See the attached evidence from the Leningrad Codex, dated 1006/7 CE so not quite 1000 years old. These images can be tied up with some of the first few forms in http://www.qaya.org/academic/hebrew/Ketiv-Qere-difficult.pdf. For 2 Samuel 21:9 I have also included an image from the Aleppo codex, which is nearly a century older than Leningrad. Note how there is little ambiguity about which vowel points go with which base character.

Some of these examples are not as clear as they might be because there are no clear word spaces in the Leningrad codex. But the 2 Samuel 21:9 example happens to be at the start of a line in both codices, and so it is quite clear that the hiriq before the first base character is not associated with the last character of the previous word.

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