How come I'm not surprised to see the problem traced to an RTF format incompatibility. Trying to figure out which parts of the RTF spec to support when is nearly impossible...

A./


On 2/7/2013 8:08 AM, Murray Sargent wrote:
If you include a {\fonttbl...} entry that defines \f0 as an Arabic font, Word 
displays it correctly. For example, include {\fonttbl{\f0\fswiss\fcharset177 
Arial;}}

as in

{\rtf1{\fonttbl{\f0\fswiss\fcharset177 Arial;}}
\pard\plain\ql\f0\fs20 {\fs40 \u1511 \'F7\u1493 \'E5\u1491 \'E3\u1502 \'EE}
}

This displays as קודמ

Murray

-----Original Message-----
From: unicode-bou...@unicode.org [mailto:unicode-bou...@unicode.org] On Behalf 
Of Dreiheller, Albrecht
Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2013 7:33 AM
To: Raymond Mercier; unicode@unicode.org
Subject: RE: Word reversal from Abobe to Word


Raymond,

If I have a Hebrew text displayed in Adobe Acrobat I can select part
of it and can paste it into Word. The trouble is that while individual
characters are correctly displayed the order is reversed.
Thus if I have
in Acrobat
קודמ (meaning 'prior')
when pasted into Word I get
םדוק
The Windows clipboard is a "multi-channel" medium, i.e. several different data 
formats may be supplied at the same time by the sending application.
The receiving application may choose one of these formats.

Using a clipboard debugging tool, I see that Word fills up to 18 formats, like 
000D  Unicode Text  (10 Bytes)
C090  Rich Text Format  (5815 Bytes)
C10E  HTML Format   (3641 Bytes),
whereas Adobe fills only 6 formats, e.g.
000D  Unicode Text   (11 Bytes)
C090  Rich Text Format (178 Bytes)

In both cases, the Unicode Text format contains the sequence
U+05E7, U+05D5, U+05D3, U+05DE in logical order.

When "paste" is used in Word, a high level format is preferred by default, so I 
suppose the RTF format is the problem here.

Word creates an RTF sequence like
{\ltrch\fcs1 \af220\afs40\alang1033 \rtlch\fcs0   \f220\fs40\lang1037
\langnp1033\langfenp2052\insrsid13502069\charrsid6162033\'f7\'e5\'e3\'ee}}

N.B. \'f7\'e5\'e3\'ee  is the CP1255 byte sequence for the Hebrew word above.

Adobe produces this RTF sequence:
\pard\plain\ql\f0\fs20 {\fs40 \u1511 \'F7\u1493 \'E5\u1491 \'E3\u1502 \'EE} 
which is the right character sequence, but seems to be misunderstood by Word.

A solution is to use the Word command "Paste contents ..." (might be necessary to add it with 
"Customize"), and then choose "unformatted Unicode text" from the format list.

Albrecht.








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