True, however as William points out, apparently the rules have changed, so it 
isn’t unreasonable to ask again whether the rules now allow it, or if people 
that dismissed the idea in the past would now consider it.

 

Personally, I think this is the wrong place for it, and as has been suggested 
numerous times, it makes sense to host the discussion elsewhere among 
interested parties.

 

Although, I am not interested in the general case, there is a need for 
specialized cases. Just as some road sign symbols are near universal, there is 
a need for symbols for quick and universal communications in emergencies. 
Identifying places of safety or danger on a map, or for the injured to describe 
symptoms, pains, and the nature of their injury (or first aid workers to 
discuss victims’ issues), or to describe the nature of a calamity (fire, 
landslide, bomb, attack, etc.), etc.

 

William, You might consider identifying where there are needs for such 
universal text, and working with groups that would benefit, to get support for 
universal text symbols.

 

tex

 

 

 

 

From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Erkki I 
Kolehmainen
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 2:02 PM
To: wjgo_10...@btinternet.com; unicode@unicode.org
Subject: VS: Unicode encoding policy

 

Mr. Overington,

 

The question of support for localizable sentences has been raised by you on 
several occasions. For a number of valid reasons, It has never received any 
noticeable support, let alone the kind of support that you are asking for now.

 

Sincerely,  

 

Erkki I. Kolehmainen

Tilkankatu 12 A 3, 00300 Helsinki, Finland

Mob: +358400825943, Tel / Fax (by arr.): +358943682643

 

Lähettäjä: Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] Puolesta William_J_G 
Overington
Lähetetty: 23. joulukuuta 2014 19:58
Vastaanottaja: unicode@unicode.org
Aihe: Unicode encoding policy

 

Unicode encoding policy

There is a document.

http://www.unicode.org/L2/L2014/14250.htm

Within the document, the following are interesting items.

E.1.7 Emoji Additions: popular requests [Edberg, Davis, L2/14-272]

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

Later, in the same document is the following.

E.1.7 Emoji Additions: popular requests [Edberg, Davis, L2/14-272R]

[141-C6] Consensus: Add the block U+1F900..U+1F9FF Supplemental Symbols and 
Pictographs for Unicode version 8.0.

The referenced document contains links to various requests and petitions for 
additional emoji characters.

In the referenced document, within section C, is the following.

5. Are the proposed characters in current use by the user community?
No

----

This appears to be a major change in encoding policy.

This, in my opinion, is a welcome, progressive change in policy that allows new 
characters for use in a pure electronic technology to be added into regular 
Unicode without a requirement to first establish widespread use by using an 
encoding within a Unicode Private Use Area.

I feel that it is now therefore possible to seek encoding of symbols, perhaps 
in abstract emoji format and semi-abstract emoji format, so as to implement a 
system for communication through the language barrier by whole localizable 
sentences, with that system designed by interested people without the need to 
produce any legacy data that is encoded using an encoding within a Unicode 
Private Use Area.

A first draft petition could be produced and then later drafts developed by 
consensus and, when drafting has produced a document for an initial core system 
then a petition could be submitted to the Unicode Technical Committee.

Once in use, the system could have additional symbols added to it, gradually, 
so as to expand its capabilities as needs are identified.

So I am writing to ask if people on this mailing list would be interested in 
discussing and perhaps encouraging and participating in the development of this 
system please?

William Overington

23 December 2014

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