On 24 Mar 2017, at 11:34, Martin J. Dürst <due...@it.aoyama.ac.jp> wrote:
> 
> On 2017/03/23 22:48, Michael Everson wrote:
> 
>> Indeed I would say to John Jenkins and Ken Beesley that the richness of the 
>> history of the Deseret alphabet would be impoverished by treating the 1859 
>> letters as identical to the 1855 letters.
> 
> Well, I might be completely wrong, but John Jenkins may be the person on this 
> list closest to an actual user of Deseret (John, please correct me if I'm 
> wrong one way or another).

He is. He transcribes texts into Deseret. I’ve published three of them (Alice, 
Looking-Glass, and Snark).

> It may be that actual users of Deseret read these character variants the same 
> way most of us would read serif vs. sans-serif variants: I.e. unless we are 
> designers or typographers, we don't actually consciously notice the 
> difference.

I am a designer and typographer, and I’ve worked rather extensively with a 
variety of Deseret fonts for my publications. They have been well-received. 

> If that's the case, it would be utterly annoying to these actual users to 
> have to make a distinction between two characters where there actually is 
> none.

Actually neither of the ligature-letters are used in our Carrollian Deseret 
volumes. 

> The richness of the history of the Deseret alphabet can still be preserved 
> e.g. with different fonts the same way we have thousands of different fonts 
> for Latin and many other scripts that show a lot of rich history.

You know, Martin, I *have* been doing this for the last two decades. I’m well 
aware of what a font is and can do. I’m also aware of what principles we have 
used for determining character identity.

I saw your note about CJK. Unification there typically has something to do with 
character origin and similarity. The Deseret diphthong letters are clearly 
based on ligatures of *different* characters. 

Michael Everson



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