On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 1:59 PM Philippe Verdy <[email protected]> wrote:
> Resist this idea, I've not been impolite. I didn't say a word about you being impolite. I said I might be impolite for not wishing to continue this discussion in that direction. > I just want to show you that terminals are legacy environments You might have missed the thread's opening mail where I mentioned that I've been developing a terminal emulator for five years. So I'm not sure what you exactly want to show me about what a legacy environment it is; I think I perfectly know it. > that are far behind what is needed for proper internationalization For many languages (or should I say scripts) internationalization is pretty well solved in terminals. For others, requiring LTR complex rendering, so-so. For RTL scripts it's a straight disaster, an application can't even count on the letters of a word showing up in the expected order, no matter what it does. My work fixes the latter only, within(!) the limitations of this legacy environment. I don't find it feasible to get rid of this legacy (the concept of strict grid), and I find it a waste of time to ponder about it. Not sure why after about 200 mails on the topic, I still have a hard time getting this message through. Seems to me that folks here on the Unicode list want everything to be perfect for all the scripts at once and not compromise to the slightest bit; and don't really appreciate work that only offers partial improvement due to a special context's constraints. This is something I didn't expect when I posted to this list. At this point I think I've gathered all the actionable positive feedback I could (two issues: one is that shaping needs to be done differently, and the other one is that the paragraph direction should be detected on larger chunks of data (at least optionally) – thanks again for them, I'll rework my spec accordingly). For all the rest, irrelevant and hopeless stuff, like switching to proportional fonts, IMO it's high time we let this thread end here. cheers, egmont
