On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 22:14:10 +0200
Hans Åberg via Unicode <unicode@unicode.org> wrote:

> > On 13 Oct 2019, at 21:17, Richard Wordingham via Unicode
> > <unicode@unicode.org> wrote:

> > Incidentally, at least some of the sizes and timings I gave seem to
> > be wrong even for strings.  They won't work with numeric
> > quantifiers, as in /[ab]{0,20}[ac]{10,20}[ad]{0,20}e/.  

> > One gets lesser issues in quantifying complexity if one wants "Å" to
> > match \p{Lu} when working in NFD - potentially a different state for
> > each prefix of the capital letters.  (It's also the case except for
> > UTF-32 if characters are treated as sequences of code units.)
> > Perhaps 'upper case letter that Unicode happens to have encoded as
> > a single character' isn't a concept that regular expressions need
> > to support concisely. What's needed is to have a set somewhere
> > between [\p{Lu}&\p{isNFD}] and [\p{Lu}],though perhaps it should be
> > extended to include "ff" - there are English surnames like
> > "ffrench”.  

The point about these examples is that the estimate of one state per
character becomes a severe underestimate.  For example, after
processing 20 a's, the NFA for /[ab]{0,20}[ac]{10,20}[ad]{0,20}e/ can
be in any of about 50 states.  The number of possible states is not
linear in the length of the expression.  While a 'loop iteration' can
keep the size of the compiled regex down, it doesn't prevent the
proliferation of states - just add zeroes to my example. 

> I made some C++ templates that translate Unicode code point character
> classes into UTF-8/32 regular expressions. So anything that can be
> reduced to actual regular expressions would work. 

Besides invalidating complexity metrics, the issue was what \p{Lu}
should match.  For example, with PCRE syntax, GNU grep Version 2.25
\p{Lu} matches U+0100 but not <A, U+0300>.  When I'm respecting
canonical equivalence, I want both to match [:Lu:], and that's what I
do. [:Lu:] can then match a sequence of up to 4 NFD characters.

Regards,

Richard.

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