On Fri, 25 Apr 2008, Clinton Jeffery wrote:

> Hugh,
> 
> This is a bad and embarrassing bug on my part. I actually attempted
> once previously to change the virtual console to one with a scrollbar, and

Well, one whose graphics area is memory backed so that a resize
event reveals more of it, would be a start.  I'm not au fait with
Windows programming really, so don't know if that's any easier. 

> didn't
> quite get it working. The fact that the error message is left in a logfile,

I have not noticed a log file.

> and that
> a subsequent invocation of the translator writes out the error message from
> the
> previous run is a comical and sad but in this case useful bug. For a third
> bug that
> I'm surprised more people have not sent angry reports, these bugs seem
> related
> to a bug in which old Unicon logfiles get left around in a TEMP directory,

Is that where I should be looking?... Can't see anything that looks
like a Unicon generated file in cygwin's /tmp or in Windows %TEMP%,
I've been using both as interfaces.
> ugh!

Leaving them around may actually be useful. It might be useful to
rotate the log files (per user? probably a pain in Windows) so if
someone never finds them they don't clog up the disk, but they
persist long enough to be analysed, if one knows where to look.
> 
> In short: Windows Unicon needs some maintenance, and I need some help.
> I might manage to work on this sometime during the summer, but I wouldn't
> count on it happening without some external impetus or help coming along.
> Your e-mail is some external impetus...

If there are good ways for me to trap useful information as I
create my own bugs :-) then I'll do what I can.
> 
> Regarding your asking about "is there another tool", there are in principle
> three VM's
> (nticonx, console only; iconx, console w/ graphics, and wiconx, Win32 w/out
> console).

OK, well invoking unicon from the command line is working for me at
the moment.

> The problem you report is for the wiconx. If you run things with iconx
> instead of wiconx
> you get messages to a regular console, which might be scrollable.  iconx is
> not the

I'll see how that compares with invoking unicon.  I do want to be
sure I working with Unicon and not Icon for this project.  I don't
think I put Icon on this machine, so I hope I'll only get the tools
called icon that came with Unicon.

> default for the IDE, because it pops up a new console when you run a
> program, whether
> it uses stdio or not.

I have some partly working Unicon files for Vim, the syntax file
taken from that for Icon, and then modified (though I broke string
highlighting when I did that).  I've mentioned this on vim_dev, to a
resounding silence.

http://groups.google.com/group/vim_dev/browse_thread/thread/97817a45b882ce27

When I've swatted a few more bugs in them I'll pass the files along.

> 
> Thanks,
> Clint
> 
        Thank you
        Hugh

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