I don't think that folks are really slamming Eli, personally I never
mentioned his name, as much as we are looking at process, 
transparency, and planning efforts between UCD and residents.
There are many individuals involved.
S.



On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 12:31:37 -0400, "Tancredi, Sue M." 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :

> I have worked for years with non-profits that work to serve the 
community and make Philadelphia a better place, despite how difficult 
the city makes it. My husband and I own a small business and the city 
makes that miserable, too, with high taxes (a gross receipts tax!), 
high insurance and favoritism to businesses that play ball with city 
politicians and their minions. 
> 
> A woman who I work with - who has done more public service since 
moving here 20 plus years than almost anyone I know- once said 
something like "Philadelphia is a horrible place to try to do good. They 
don't appreciate it and they'd rather find fault than help you make the 
city a better place." This is exactly what people are doing to Eli and 
while everyone is entitled to their opinion , making Eli a subject of 
public ridicule when he is just trying to make the world a better place is 
so stupid! It gives no incentive for people to ever try to do anything 
for the neighborhood- and we wonder why there is a lack of leadership 
and such stagnation in the city?
> 
> Usually I ignore all this ranting on this list, but it is so unfair to slam 
Eli. I know him well and am his neighbor and see how hard he works 
and know he would never be the puppet of Penn or the city or L& I. 
He's just one guy trying to make the world a better place and help a 
few people out. Cut him a break.
> 
> I'm also sure that if a people died in a fire or from faulty 
construction at some business on Baltimore Ave, the same people 
complaining now would say that they city wasn't looking out for them. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Turner,Kathleen
> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 11:36 AM
> To: 'Jennifer Rodriguez'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [UC] City Paper Article: Baltimore Avenue Merchants + 
L&I +
> UCD
> 
> 
> I think you're right that this is the message many of the Baltimore 
Ave. businesses are getting, but my question is who is the "we" who 
have decided that "we want more sit down restaurants, that they are 
not upscale enough, that we want coffee houses, bookstores, etc."?
> 
> I certainly like coffee houses (my daughter thinks it is a MAJOR 
treat to stop at the Green Line for a cup of tea after an evening walk), 
and bookstores are wonderful, but even a highly literate/academic 
neighborhood can only support so many of those (and I'd rather see 
that business go to Larry's wonderful Last Word).  
> 
> Personally, what I need on Baltimore Avenue is a friendly corner 
store where my kids and their friends can stop for snacks on the way 
home from school without being chased out and where I can grab 6 
bags of cookies really fast when I need them for a scout meeting, a 
nice little neighborhood grocery store whose owner drives my mother-
in-law home when she stops in to pick up a few things, a place where 
my son and his friends can hang out and have a pizza . . .  and wow! 
those things have been there for years.
> 
> Now I could certainly do without auto-body places parking cars on 
the sidewalks but it's great to be able to drop your car off for repairs 
and walk home.  I'd really love a place to get an ice cream cone or 
water ice in the summer, without paying B&J prices.  Yes, illegal 
speakeasies should be shut down but most of the neighborhood bars 
on Baltimore Ave. have existed there quite nicely for years -- only the 
clientele has changed with the neighborhood.
> 
> "Upscale" shopping and restaurant areas are really nice, but ask the 
people who live in Manayunk what development there has done to 
their neighborhood . . . and where they go to get the things they 
NEED; the answer will be that they have to get in their cars and drive 
somewhere else, i.e., the suburbs.
> 
> Kathleen
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jennifer Rodriguez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 10:39 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [UC] City Paper Article: Baltimore Avenue Merchants + 
L&I + UCD
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> In my opinion, the fears and concerns of Baltimore Avenue 
merchants are not unfounded, they are real.  They have been 
informed formally or informally (and there is a corridor survey that 
shows this) that their businesses don't cater to the surrounding 
community, that we want more sit down restaurants, that they are not 
upscale enough, that we want coffee houses, bookstores, etc.  and 
that their businesses don't meet our aesthetic standard.  How are they 
supposed to interpret this, as welcoming news? If I was a merchant I 
would be very concerned. Their businesses are in jeopardy and as a 
result their livelihoods are at stake.  How are they supposed to react? 
This is what happens when gentrification is neighborhoods reach 
the "tipping point".  Now, how we mitigate the impact of the new socio-
economic dynamics is the difficult task.
> 
> Jennifer Rodriguez
> 
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