Good for you. We need all the hope we can get!!!!!!!!!!!!! -----Original Message----- From: "Wendi A. Haugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Feb 19, 2004 10:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UC] Tote-A-Vote
Hi, just joining the Dean howl. I spent a lot of time volunteering for Dean and I'm furious at the way forces within the party, not to mention the corporate media, worked against him. This campaign was a real eye-opener to me. Still, I remain stubbornly hopeful. While the official campaign is suspended, Dean spent a lot of time and money nurturing grassroots organizations all over the country, and we are still working to get delegates for Dean who can put pressure on the party at the convention to adopt more progressive positions (so far, Kerry and Edwards have adopted Dean's rhetoric, but - as Dean puts it - this is a conversion of convenience, not of conviction, and we need to ensure that the party leadership has conviction). Volunteers are creating new flyers (still in progress) and new radio ads (www.truthandhope.org) explaining why Dean supporters should still vote for Dean in their primary. In the next few days, the official campaign will be transforming itself into a new, longer-term and broader-based organization which will work for change within the Democratic Party and within our government. They will probably direct volunteers and contributions to progressive candidates in the House and Senate, because without control over one of these bodies a Democratic President won't be able to do much. They will encourage supporters to run for local offices and party positions. I'm sure they are tossing around other ideas as well. Wendi At 09:50 AM 2/19/04 -0500, you wrote: >Hello >Good points. If a Democrat is elected he will be a one term man since >he will have to take unpopular stands. Republicans have a built-in advantage >in that they can throw social issues like aboution, guns, and the latest >threat. gay marrage. They can do macho campaign to lock the south and >then cherry pick. >The left will again go on a Mumia love fest and ignore common problems to >average middle class American's brouight on by this aministration. Protest is >fine and dandy but results really matter in the real world of raising kids >and >paying the rent/mortgage. >Good day >-Mark > >-----Original Message----- >From: Brian Siano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Feb 18, 2004 11:53 PM >To: University City List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [UC] I Boycott Walmart/health care blues > >Mark Krull wrote: > > > I just thought I would howel in honor of Howard Dean who dropped out > > today.One more thing > > I ask, please do not wote for Nader this time...... > >And although I don't plan on voting for Nader this time, I have to ask-- >why _not_ vote for the guy? > >First of all, he really can't be blamed for the loss of the 2000 >election. That vote was too close for any _one_ factor to be blamed. And >if you blame Nader, then you're presuming that the vote counts_did_ >place Bush legitimately in the White House. > >Second, his impact on the 2004 election-- assuming he even runs-- is >bound to be almost negligible. I don't think he'd get even a tenth of >the votes he'd gotten in 2000. So he's not likely to present any real >damage to the Democrats. But Democrats continue to wail about the >as-yet-uncommitted Nader as though he, personally, had the means to keep >them out of the White House. > >Third, a vote is a voter's statement on who they want to lead the >country. No one's vote belongs to a political party. (One of the most >revolting things about Democrats was the way they kept insisting that my >vote was really Al Gore's to claim. It was exactly the kind of "if >you're not with us, you support terrorism" logic they couldn't stand >from Bush.) > >Fourth, I can think of any number of reasons to be so disgusted with the >Democrats that one would want to cast Nader a vote out of protest. Look >at the way the DLC went after Howard Dean, long before any primaries >established anyone as a front-runner; they really didn't want a >candidate who wasn't beholden to them and their grip on the party's >pursestrings. Look at the way they're drawing tight around Kerry, a >not-terribly-inspiring figure not exactly known for any great >accomplishment beyond being a war vet-- it's as if the Democrats are >more concerned with appealing to Republicans and find an "electable" >candidate, rather than standing up for anything like a real Democratic >principle. (I'm more and more impressed with John Edwards, myself.) > >So, in summary: If you want to vote for Nader, do it. If you don't, then >don't. And if a Democrat does get elected, don't give him the benefit of >the doubt: demand that he actually try to fix the damage the other >party's wreaked on the country. > > >---- >You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the >list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see ><http://www.purple.com/list.html>. > > > >---- >You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the >list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see ><http://www.purple.com/list.html>. ---- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see <http://www.purple.com/list.html>. ---- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see <http://www.purple.com/list.html>.
