Dude, even if Penn chooses the members of the UCDs governing body in a secret
Masonic rite deep in the subterranean labyrinths of the Mill Creek tunnel work
-- how does ANYTHING you said here support your two weird contentions:
1) That Penn is somehow responsible for people not being allowed to sing in
Rittenhouse Square.
2) That Penn and I quote is extremely committed to the elimination of free
speech and the take over of public parks.
"We" are extremely interested in your list of examples of Penn's commitment to
eliminating free speech. Seeing as that you managed not to get arrested at the
protest, we must assume that you fled like a birkenstock wearing yuppie who
needed to get back to his day job when the mounted patrols swept the park and
therefore we must question your commitment to fighting for our freedom. In
addition we must suspect that you are actually a government mole trying to
infiltrate the Free Speech movement. Larry West would have been waving to us
from the windows of the Philly jail while we camped out in support.
Please show your work, this quiz counts towards your final grade.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Glenn
Sent: Thu 5/3/2007 10:44 AM
To: Mike V.; UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] important question about free speech rally
Mr, V
I think you want a linguistic discussion about the way the word "we" might be
used? If I say, "we in the United States believe in the right to free speech,"
you would be quite correct to point out that not all 300 million citizens do
believe in the right to free speech. The word, we, implies a shared group but
is very different from the word, everyone, or the phrase, all of us.
When I used the word, we, I was referring to the following group. We, the
residents of eastern West Philly subscribed to the university city purple list
whom are informed and interested in what is generally referred to as local
politics and consider concepts such as process of governance, rights, duties
etc. For the sake of brevity, I hoped my use of the word, we, would be
understood to include folks that are sometimes called UCD cheerleaders, those
like myself wanting UCD to go away as well as people who have feelings between.
However, I did not mean to imply inclusion of those individuals who are not
interested or informed about these matters.
Frankly Mr. V, I don't believe some upscale people on this list have enough
knowledge about processes associated with governance to follow the various
discussions that arise about the UCD, its corporate partners, "spin,"
propaganda, etc.
Now, if you want a public discussion about other aspects about my words which
you quote; please send an additional post with a clear question of the disputed
idea. I get worried about the eyes of some of the old geezers on the list if
my posts get too long or complicated.
Taking a guess at your disagreement but trying to save the old geezers eyes,
let me say this. It is not just that Penn entities are the primary funder of
UCD. The UCD board of directors is always chaired by Penn real estate
officials like John Fry and Omar. The board of directors is a hand picked
assortment of corporate cronies to the University. They also carefully hand
pick a couple of civic association leaders to rubber stamp their plots and
schemes regarding this neighborhood,
If UCD was actually answerable to the "community" can you describe the process
by which the community chooses the UCD board of directors? I think a hand
picked board of directors picked solely by closed university proceedings is
highly suggestive that UCD is the agent of Penn. If you can demonstrate that
the UCD board of directors is chosen in some other manner, I will admit the
mistake of my words and apologize to the list.
Now in honor of old geezer eyes, I close.
Sincerely,
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike V. <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'Glenn' <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ; UnivCity@list.purple.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:20 AM
Subject: RE: [UC] important question about free speech rally
Er, I'm pretty sure that "we" don't know that at all. "We" have seen
no proof of that, nor even any highly suggestive evidence. I'd thank you to be
more careful when you speak for "us" in the future.
- Mike V.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Glenn
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:25 AM
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: [UC] important question about free speech rally
We know that Penn's agent in this neighborhood is UCD and they
are extremely committed to the elimination of free speech and the take over of
public parks.
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