"could be legislation to prohibit newspapers from endorsing candidates?" If you take the campaign contribution model, it didn't end with a ban on contributions. What I am suggesting will happen is a study and some modifications on when, and how much. S -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 12:22 AM To: UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: [UC] Newspaper Endorsements ... "Pay-To Say" Well, she was responding to my question to you. In your response, you referenced reviewing this like campaign contributions. So are you suggesting that your proposed remedy could be legislation to prohibit newspapers from endorsing candidates? If not, what do you have in mind?
Paul -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; UnivCity@list.purple.com Sent: Sat, 12 May 2007 11:21 AM Subject: RE: [UC] Newspaper Endorsements ... "Pay-To Say" It's responses like yours which really make no sense to me. Controlled by the government? Borat says: "Whaaaaaattt?" Reform is in order and will happen at some point. S -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <javascript:parent.ComposeTo(> [ <javascript:parent.ComposeTo(> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Turner,Kathleen Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 8:47 AM To: UnivCity@list.purple.com <javascript:parent.ComposeTo(> Subject: RE: [UC] Newspaper Endorsements ... "Pay-To Say" Sure, that would be easy. All newspapers and other media outlets would be controlled 100% by the government. Somehow, I doubt that Mr. Ali would be very happy with that. Kathleen _____ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <javascript:parent.ComposeTo(> on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED] <javascript:parent.ComposeTo(> Sent: Fri 5/11/2007 9:17 PM To: UnivCity@list.purple.com <javascript:parent.ComposeTo(> Subject: Re: [UC] Newspaper Endorsements ... "Pay-To Say" Whoa, I thought the prior responses dealt with all of your questions. Look at it this way, assuming your argument is not totally for meaningless exchange, how do you propose to implement your proposed policy, i.e. to ban newspapers from endorsing candidates, supporting or opposing legislation, criticizing court decisions, or advocating for public policy? If you are able to articulate a system to accomplish this that you can live with, let us know, and then there is something real to talk about. Paul -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <javascript:parent.ComposeTo(> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <javascript:parent.ComposeTo(> ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] <javascript:parent.ComposeTo(> Cc: UnivCity@list.purple.com <javascript:parent.ComposeTo(> Sent: Fri, 11 May 2007 8:00 PM Subject: RE: [UC] Newspaper Endorsements ... "Pay-To Say" Thanks Wilma: I hope everyone understands I don't mean payments "literally", like a fee-sheet. One hand washing the other. Editorial boards should present commentary, but not endorse. to approve openly <endorse an idea>; especially : to express support or approval of publicly and definitely <endorse a mayoral candidate> b : to recommend (as a product or service) usually for financial compensation <shoes endorsed by a pro basketball player> I see no one is answering the questions. S -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilma de Soto Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 6:48 PM To: S. Sharrieff Ali; 'Joshua Karstendick' Cc: UnivCity listserv Subject: Re: [UC] Newspaper Endorsements ... "Pay-To Say" It has ALWAYS been thus, ever since there have been newspapers. No help for it. The Editorial pages were created for just those issues that concern the general public; also editorial cartoonist of which I feel Tony Auth is one of the greatest. Advertisers do not USUALLY dictate newspaper editorial policy as they do when they pay for advertising time on TV and Product Placement in pictures. If they do there is usually a disclaimer in fine print at the end of the advert. I would know because Alex is in that business. However, I could be wrong, but THAT was what the newspaper business thrived upon. The Philadelphia Inquirer is one of the oldest Public Newspapers in the U.S. All sorts of companies take out advertisements for all sorts of reasons including political reasons; however endorsements of the Editorial Board are not usually bought, but are opinions of same. On 5/11/07 4:38 PM, "S. Sharrieff Ali" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Let mew say it again. Newspapers should not endorse candidates. 1. Why should they? 2. Why is it important for a newspaper to use its might against a candidate to sway voter opinion and turn-out? 3. Are payments made."Pay-to-Say"? 4. Why is reporting all sides of an issue not enough? 5. How does a newspaper benefit from an endorsement? 6. If a newspaper is going to endorse a candidate, how does a candidate posture themselves in anticipation? There where many people who thought it was a better idea to have local papers not endorse. In my opinion, there is no separation between editorial and news. The perception is they are the same. When a paper endorses a candidate, the paper uses its collective might and does not make the distinction known. S -----Original Message----- From: Joshua Karstendick [ <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 2:44 PM To: S. Sharrieff Ali Cc: UnivCity@list.purple.com Subject: Re: [UC] Newspaper Endorsements ... "Pay-To Say" The editorial page is separate from news reporting. Newspapers can and do both endorse candidates and provide high quality, unbiased news. There is also a wall of separation between advertisers and the newsroom. On 5/11/07, S. Sharrieff Ali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Newspapers should not support candidates, they should report > > the news and remain unbiased. > > > > So if the newspapers are advertising based, then how much do > > they charge for an endorsement? > > > > S _____ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at <http://www.aol.com/?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000437> AOL.com. _____ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000437> AOL.com.
