Glenn,
Could you please explain what you mean by your words in context:
1. tone
2. code of silence (I understand this in police and mob contexts, but not here)
3. the gang (who's in the gang, how do we know it exists, and does it meet?)
4. ban
"Some freely include tone, or breaking the code of silence if they wish to
scold or ban someone from participating when he or she is outside the gang."
Thanks,
Paul
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Subject: Re: [UC] Thanks for the emails, but really, all is well!
----- Original Message ----- From: "UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "University City List" <UnivCity@list.purple.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [UC] Thanks for the emails, but really, all is well!
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> I too am in favor of civility on the listserv and have previously pointed >
> out that ad hominem has no place in public discourse or rational debate. >
> still, ad hominem hasn't gone away, and now we get to see yet another form >
> of it: hand-picking which ad hominem messages are scolded and which ad >
> hominem messages are allowed.
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> YOU GO, AD HOMINEM!
attacking an opponent's motives or character rather than the
policy or position they maintain : vicious ad hominem attacks.
2 relating to or associated with a particular person
Many people in the district ignore the real definition. Some freely include
tone, or breaking the code of silence if they wish to scold or ban someone from
participating when he or she is outside the gang.
Yet the posts of some folks are almost always ad hominem attacks. If they are
in the "right thinking" gang, they will always get a free pass with this.
I have been accused of ad hominem attacks because of my tone and by "causing
embarrassment" to civic association leaders when exposing specific problems.
Sometimes the issue or problem would require that I name individuals. This is
not the same as ad hominem attacks. Is this a mistake or a tactic? I wonder.
The same folks whom have lectured me and called my posts ad hominem have
completely ignored the real ad hominem machine that is running all the time.
I know I got really frustrated, and believe it or not, had my feelings hurt
when people could say that I was crazy, loony, evil, etc, etc while I was so
often speaking about real and specific issues or problems. This double standard
is so obvious to me.
Ray, I'm glad you brought this up on the list. Even though you haven't let out
your anger about this, you get real ad hominem attacks aimed at you by Tony
frequently. I believe this double standard has become completely accepted here
in what Craig called the UCD culture. It exists in the rumor mill as well.
If you're a "right thinking" member of the district culture, you get a free
pass because of the code of silence. If you're a leader in the UCD culture, you
are almost expected to engage in ad hominem attacks against dissenting
"outsiders." I've been evil, loony, etc long before I came to the list.
Questions, opinions, discussions of real issues are simultaneously an offense
when "wrong thinking" people like me and apparently you post them. It's truly
incredible to watch, and not so fun to receive.
So folks, get out the death ray! Crazy loony, evil, Moyer is at it again.
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> SERIAL LIAR. CALL FOR RATES.
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