In all fairness, to distinguish UCD from us implies that UCD is not a part of us. If by "us" you mean "readers of this listserve," then a few days ago you noted some UCD workers are part of us. Surely that's not what you're wishing to say now, though.

So define an "us" that is not UCD, that UCD can respond to, especially if that "us" assumes some financial responsibility for UCD.

I can think of possible "usses", but I won't name them, no matter how theoretically, because I don't want the heat. That's why I invited you to do the initial round of naming, Ray.

If no one steps forward to define such an "us" for us, then, sadly, I don't see how it can ever proceed to Points 2, 3 ... x. Who will bell the cat? as the old fable goes. In that case, this attractive inquiry would be better set aside, I fear.

-- Tony West

I began with the idea that ucd is primarily accountable to us, not to itself. you put the word 'us' in quotes, and now you want to know who/what this 'us' is. so do I. so let's give others a chance to contribute.

all we have thus far is that ucd is primarily accountable to some entity other than itself.


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