let's summarize:
once upon a time, focp was good, glenn was good, park users were good.
then ucd stepped in. and then suddenly the park was bad, park users were
bad, glenn was bad and the so were the new focp folks pushing folks like
glenn out. and now that glenn is out, the bad folks running focp look
good, involving the good park users in ucd's good agenda for the good
park, but glenn still looks bad. the end.
Ray,
I was away for a while, but want to get back to this because it's important.
When I was away, I did my best not to think of the district.
You capture how UCD steps in, takes over, and steps up the spin. UCD and
their partners are good and perfect and dissenters are like me, crazy.
I think, there is a very important point not captured in your summary.
Essentially, the FOCP is no different than it was before the UCD occupation.
UCD, city officials, and lots of folks knew that these civic associations
don't represent the diverse community but instead a small subset of people
with a shared ideology and agenda. In my opinion, these lobbying groups
request power in the neighborhood to be solely vested in their hands.
The problems with the FOCP like astroturfing, controlling processes to
silence dissent, character attacks, etc., I believe to be a pattern and not
isolated. I've wanted folks to see that the civic associations need reform
so this pattern isn't reinforced. When my character is assailed, I've often
been called bitter. I've heard things like, "we want to look to the future
not the past" What I attempt to point out is that if the patterns keep
repeating; this argument is a deflecting complaint so that the need for
reform can be denied.
I think the UCD willingness to work so hard at "anointing" the civic
associations as voice of the community shows the intentions of their
mission. This action is highly divisive in the community but UCD wants an
expedient community acceptance of its rule.
This dealing with a small group of civic association leaders with a wall of
secrecy is supposed to replace the need for transparency. Clearly, the civic
associations need reform and to function as a provider of information and
not deciders of community policy before they could come close to fulfilling
this role claimed for them by UCD. In fact, it is not realistic for an FOCP
to be this unified voice, but an FOCP could function as a source of relevant
information and discussion for the community. The opposite of protecting
secret plans and agendas.
If this "anointing" were an accident, I would be more forgiving. UCD doesn't
care about the damage they cause in the community as long as they get their
wish, power. They knew that calling the civic association leaders, the
community, was a lie.
But since they can't explain their true mission to the public and possibly
get acceptance, this destructive divisive anointing is their tactic. Spin is
designed to do the rest.
Much of my aggression on these civic association problems is due to the
massive shift in power. If FOCP was still a nuisance causing damage in the
community these things would still be a problem. But now UCD has made them
the voice of the community that will speak the UCD agenda. This is an even
more serious problem now that UCD controls the park. Once the takeover is
completed, there will be no turning back.
My opinion,
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UnivCity Listserv" <univcity@list.purple.com>
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [UC] ad hominem answer to Paul
Brian Siano wrote:
Glenn wrote:
It showed how FOCP can ban anyone whom the leaders perceive as a threat
to their power or ask questions like "evil Ray." Consider this, if the
leaders of FOCP rely on nothing more than the ad hominem machine on a
PUBLIC listserv, why would they be trusted to be fair when allowing
people to speak or participate in CLOSED "community discussions"? We
have to stop pretending.
Further evidence of the FOCP's prevention of community participation:
http://www.clarkpark.info/ParkA.htm
Come and see more at our General Membership Meeting on Wednesday, July
18th:
so here we have glenn and focp talking past one another again. "you're
bad!" "no, we're good, YOU'RE bad!" "now see that's what makes YOU bad,
calling me bad!" "yeah? well too bad you're bad, it's a good thing we're
good!" "well good for you but you're still bad!" etc etc etc
let's summarize:
once upon a time, focp was good, glenn was good, park users were good.
then ucd stepped in. and then suddenly the park was bad, park users were
bad, glenn was bad and the so were the new focp folks pushing folks like
glenn out. and now that glenn is out, the bad folks running focp look
good, involving the good park users in ucd's good agenda for the good
park, but glenn still looks bad. the end.
..................
UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN
[aka laserbeam®]
[aka ray]
SERIAL LIAR. CALL FOR RATES.
it's not that glenn is bad, it's that he looks bad.
it's not that focp is good, it's that they look good.
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