In a message dated 7/29/2007 7:58:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I see.  How much is Kyle having to pay Penn to get them to host his server
and lend him an IP address?

Would I be able to do the same if I pay them to host a server for me and
loan me an IP address?  Who gets to do this?  Must one be directly
affiliated with the University or have someone who IS affiliated do it for
you?

Actually, anybody can set up a listserv for free. The two "usual" free hosts 
are yahoo and google. I prefer google because they don't insert any ads into 
the postyings, whereas yahoo does. (You could do this for your students, Wilma, 
if enough of them have computers. It would be very exciting for some kinds to 
have a "class discussion group.")
 
It doesn't take much more computer savvy than knowing how to link to the site 
and filling in the blanks. A bit of familiarity with the terminology does 
help because the sites were set up by nerds who think everyone knows things. 
Start by going to _www.googlegroups.com_ (http://www.googlegroups.com)  -- 
there's 
a box on the top right hand side of the screen that guides you through it. 
You'll end up with a list having a name such as [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])  where "xxx" is anything you want that's not already 
taken.
 
You can do a list where you're the only person who can post (a newsletter), a 
moderated list, an unmoderated list, a list where you have to approve people 
who want to read it, etc -- all kinds of options.
 
I'm not recommending this as a way to do what Kyle is apparently trying to do 
with [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) . But these things are good to know about, for 
instance, if you have a 
special interest group of some sort and want to facilitate interactions in a 
way 
that's more convenient than copying everybody.
 
By the way, google has the advantage that subscribers can sign up for one of 
three options (and can change the choice at will) These are: a) get every post 
as it's transmitted, b) get a single daily email message containing all posts 
from the past 24 hours, c) get a single daily email giving brief precis of 
all posts -- with the ability to look at any that you find especially 
interesting.
 
Anybody with a legitimate special interest group (doesn't have to be 
community-oriented... people are allowed to have lives of their own) who wants 
some 
help setting up a google group and is a bit (or very) uncertain as to how to do 
it, contact me (offlitst, please) and I'll be happy to help you do it. My free 
offer does not apply if you're doing it for a commercial enterprise -- but 
google will certainly accommodate it.
 
This is why they call me "Mr Helpful"
Al Krigman



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