Tony,

Very well!

Apparently I am a falsifier, because I have read posts where you and others
have stated that Ray was a liar and also Glenn Moyer.

I saw a post as recently as this weekend, that all who would soon be left on
the UC Listserv would be the crazies.

I quoted an earlier post of mine as to how the UC Neighbors Listserv would
portray us and said, "Well...I hate to say I told you so..."

I have NO wish, desire NOR motive to ever miscall you about your posts, as I
would not have it done the same to me.

I am sorry you feel that I would.

-Wilma


On 8/6/07 7:15 PM, "Anthony West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Wilma,
> 
> I don't "try to portray" people as either liars or mental cases.
> Whenever you can identify an apparently intentional falsehood, then it
> is always fair to say that its falsifier is a liar. He can come up with
> other explanations for his falsehood if he wishes. We may believe him or
> not, or reserve judgement, as we wish. Still, the publisher of a
> falsehood who doesn't recant or correct his falsehood remains a liar.
> It's not my duty to pretend I didn't notice it, just to be nice.
> 
> That might be true if there were assumptions of "courtesy", which I
> understand in a very broad and hardbitten sense. I do business all the
> time with people I think are lying to me, but I keep my mouth shut
> because the larger social context requires us to do business again in
> the future. I am not a hardcore priss about lying. Some social lies are
> absolutely essential to decent living! But some are not. These should be
> described and reported, for the same reason potholes should be described
> and reported.
> 
> In any case, there are no assumptions or expectations of courtesy that I
> can see in UC-list today. It's all about quarreling and grumbling, isn't
> it? I mean statistically: of today's, 8/6/07's, posts, would someone
> care to rate them on a "quarrelsome/non-quarrelsome" scale at day's end,
> midnight? I think that would be a valuable mirror for UC-list today to
> gaze into. (I won't do this work because it would be a conflict of
> interest.) It is busily redefining itself as UCQuarrel. What are we all
> going to do about this?
> 
> -- Tony West
> 
> Wilma de Soto wrote:
>> Second, Did NOT Anthony West (and others) try to portray Glenn NOT only as a
>> liar and a mental case, but also Ray Rorke repeatedly?
>>   
> 
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