Hi, Glenn,
Glad you asked about whether any of the 500 UCHS members attended a meeting on
the Campus Inn" project (I only learned the name at yesterday's Historical
Commission hearing).
As one of the five hundred plus members of UCHS (I only learned THAT by reading
Belynda Stewart's letter in the UC Review) I can only say that I did not attend
any such meeting. I only learned about it in the October 10th UC Review. When I
voiced my opinion about it in the October 17th UC Review, based on what little
I could glean from the article, I was told, in effect, that I should mind my
own effing business. So I'm just as confused as you are!
Karen
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 05:18:15 -0800> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re:
> [UC] uchs shoots itself> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]> > >
> In fact, we are still reviewing the> > project and> > > do not have enough
> information to make a fully> > informed> > > decision on its feasibility.> >
> Did any of the 500 UCHS members attend any in the> series of Spruce Hill
> Civic Association, open, public> forums about this project? Your thoughts? >
> > I feel so stupid because I live in Spruce Hill and had> not heard about the
> project until the UC Review> printed a news report on Oct 10. I completely
> missed> these extensive public discussions which gave the> neighborhood
> feedback to Penn over the summer. > Luckily, the Penn architect told the PH
> commissioners> that another open community meeting is scheduled by> the
> community next week!!!!!! I'll forward the> announcement after I see the UC
> Review.> > When Lindsay Johnston of Common Ground, our Melani,> Mike hardy,
> and Dan Deritis showed up yesterday to> confirm this massive grass roots
> support from the> BID/UCD committees, I felt really stupid.> > There I was
> sitting at the PHC hearings finding out> from Penn about this massive
> community engagement and> support which has been occurring in my own
> community! > > I haven't been contacted from SHCA or any members from> the
> list in response to my question about the date and> location of the previous
> 2 open public forums. But> Penn has now twice testified to this city
> commission> about this massive community engagement and support. > > Could
> someone give any report at all about these SHCA> open public forums? How many
> people attended? Were> there any objections to the 11-story "Campus Inn" at>
> all? Thanks. > > Mike Hardy didn't give any details about the forums> when he
> testified yesterday after the Penn assertions> had been made. And Barry
> Grossbach (whose involvement> with these forums was mentioned yesterday)
> didn't give> any information at the Oct. Architectual meeting. > > At first I
> thought Barry would jump up and deny these> claims about support and open
> public forums as nothing> more than Penn astroturfing, but to my amazement,
> he> didn't speak at all. I felt so uninformed and stupid.> > Does anyone know
> about any of these open public forum> announcements that happened any where
> in Spruce Hill> over any communication medium? Thanks for any help.> > I'll
> get the Review and post the announcement about> the forum the community
> scheduled for next week. > Someone will need to send a message to the 500
> members> of UCHS too.> > Glenn> Spruce Hill citizen, West Philadelphia> > > >
> > > > > --- UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:> > > from this
> week's uc review, a letter which damages> > uchs, > > written by the current
> president of uchs:> > > > http://tinyurl.com/ytlh6f> > > > > > > RE: 40th and
> Pine project> > > > > > As current President of the University City> >
> Historical> > > Society, I think that it is necessary to clarify> > some of>
> > > the information imparted in the article City’s> > > Architectural Review…
> 40th and Pine Hilton. While> > the> > > article appears simply to state the
> facts, there> > is some> > > misinformation as well as key omissions, which>
> > distort> > > the facts as well as the tone of the meeting held> > October>
> > > 23. I did attend the meeting and have direct> > knowledge of> > > what
> transpired.> > > > > > First, while Karen Allen is one of five hundred> >
> plus> > > members of UCHS, she is not a board member, nor is> > she a> > >
> spokesperson for our group. Second, while the> > writer has> > > noted
> various opinions, he neglected to relate the> > > opinion given by another
> UCHS member, who has been> > both a> > > Board member and a past president of
> our> > organization, as> > > well as a very successful UC realtor. Her
> opinion> > was> > > definitely in favor of the project, which includes> >
> the> > > full restoration of the historically registered> > Sloan> > >
> mansion.> > > > > > At this time, the Board of University City> > Historical>
> > > Society has NOT decided either for or against the> > > project. What we
> have agreed on is that we would> > like to> > > see the restoration of the
> mansion, which is now a> > near> > > "ruin." In fact, we are still reviewing
> the> > project and> > > do not have enough information to make a fully> >
> informed> > > decision on its feasibility. If, and when, the> > Board of> > >
> University City Historical Society does make a> > > determination on this
> project, we will relay that> > > information publicly through our appointed
> and> > authorized> > > spokesperson.> > > > > > Thank you.> > > > > > Belynda
> P. Steward President, University City> > Historical> > > Society> > > > > > >
> > > > the 10/10/2007 uc review article was the first time> > the > > public
> knew about lussenhop's attempt to have the> > mansion > > delisted from the
> register of historic places> > earlier this > > summer:> > > > > "I wanted to
> get it de-listed to have greater> > > choices," explained Lussenhop of his
> motion to> > rescind> > > designation. "But once I realized the sentiment> >
> of> > > the [philadelphia] historical committee and> > neighborhood, I said>
> > > fine..."> > > > > > now the president of uchs is making it evident that,>
> > far > > from trying to save the mansion from ruin, uchs did> > nothing > >
> to prevent lussenhop's earlier attempt to delist the> > > > mansion, and uchs
> did nothing to inform the> > community or its > > 'five hundred plus' members
> about lussenhop's> > attempt.> > > > why does uchs even exist? whose
> interests does uchs> > serve? > > when? I think the president of uchs makes
> that> > clear, now.> > > > great letter, belynda!> > > > > >
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