>Anthony West wrote: > >> PennPraxis facilitates a regular monthly forum at which neighbors who >> are either for or against the hotel proposal can communicate and learn. >> This is not a panacea, but running meetings is PennPraxis' chief stock >> in trade. If regular public meetings can't help your faction, then yes, >> PennPraxis hasn't helped it and can't help it. It's not a sort of >> Planning Police, if that's what you have in mind.
Ray, You might not know how funny this is! At 8AM, Penn Praxis holds these "regular forums" at the old folks home. Nurses wheel down their clients for donuts. As Praxis and Tom do the blah-blah, the folks take naps in their wheel chairs and the nurses get to go out for a smoke. Once Praxis shuts up, the folks get to socialize a bit before they're wheeled away. (I made a mad dash for the door because the Penn cop was giving me the eye after I called Tom's drawings deceptive. They had that drawing where the teeny weeny 10 story building was hiding behind the gigantic 3 story historic building.) People don't think Penn Praxis does anything useful. These geriatric socials are very important for the well being of these folks. It's meant to make a pretense of public engagement for Penn but luckily both the low paid nurses and old folks get some donuts, coffee, and a little group nap. >> If the people who show up at Friends of 40th St. meetings frequently >> express concern about the hotel proposal, then PennPraxis would likely >> record it in some way. By the same token, if nobody ever mentions >> opposition at any of these regular meetings, that too becomes a datum >> -- a way to measure public opinion. No one owns a copyright to the >> phrase "the neighbors", after all. >> Hahaha. There are no little green men collecting datums for Penn Praxis. Besides the sleeping old folks, it looks like a used car salesman convention at these "forums." This whole process Mr. West describes in detail and the little alien data collectors are just something in Mr. West's head-hahaha! Citizen journalist, Glenn -----Original Message----- >From: UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Sep 6, 2008 1:48 AM >To: ucityList <univcity@list.purple.com> >Subject: Re: [UC] PennPraxis and 40th St. > >Anthony West wrote: > >> PennPraxis facilitates a regular monthly forum at which neighbors who >> are either for or against the hotel proposal can communicate and learn. >> This is not a panacea, but running meetings is PennPraxis' chief stock >> in trade. If regular public meetings can't help your faction, then yes, >> PennPraxis hasn't helped it and can't help it. It's not a sort of >> Planning Police, if that's what you have in mind. >> >> If the people who show up at Friends of 40th St. meetings frequently >> express concern about the hotel proposal, then PennPraxis would likely >> record it in some way. By the same token, if nobody ever mentions >> opposition at any of these regular meetings, that too becomes a datum >> -- a way to measure public opinion. No one owns a copyright to the >> phrase "the neighbors", after all. >> >> As for UCHS -- didn't Karen recently mention that one of its board >> members testified to its opposition to the hotel proposal at some public >> hearing? That sounds like help for the anti-hotel faction. It was clear >> she had wanted even more help. But that doesn't mean it didn't help. >> >> SHCA helps both sides as well as the ZBA by providing a Zoning >> Committee. An organization that acted without a report from its Zoning >> Committee would seem impetuous and unreliable. In a long game, one needs >> a closer as well as an opener. > > > >haha all this 'help' for both developer and neighbors, and >here we all are, one year later! > >long game indeed. > > > >.................. >UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >---- >You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the >list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see ><http://www.purple.com/list.html>. ---- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see <http://www.purple.com/list.html>.