As Elmer Fudd used to say, "Vewwy intewesting".
If you go to this page, you will find all the links that Glenn cites
below:
http://www.gse.upenn.edu/node/416
If you then simply scroll down the page, instead of using the links,
you will then find the actual sections of text to which the links are
supposed to connect. Yes, they're all on that very same web page. In
fact, the first section -- "Metaphors of Community" -- is partially
visible as soon as you view the page, if you're using a large enough
monitor.
Those links are clearly intended to simply scroll the page in an
automated fashion, as are the "Back To Top" links below each section.
Unfortunately, whoever designed the page didn't do enough testing.
(There are several other web-design errors there as well, but that's
not relevant to this discussion.)
But if your goal is to see and discuss what PPCE describes as its Core
Concepts, don't get distracted by the bad links..
Just use your scroll bar instead and read 'em for yourself.
On Jan 28, 2009, at 9:36 PM, Glenn moyer wrote:
“A Penn
entity makes just as much sense to the average Joe as anybody else's
entity, to organize large-scale, productive meetings.”
Tony, these people on the un-moderated list sure know how to fling
it. You were so ivy league to point to these deep core concepts
published transparently by the Penn intellectuals on their web
site. How could anyone doubt this brilliant civic engagement
literature:
Metaphors of community
http://www.gse.upenn.edu/ppce/
coreconcepts.php#metaphorsofcommunity#metaphorsofcommunity
Metaphors of engagement
http://www.gse.upenn.edu/ppce/
coreconcepts.php#metaphorsofengagement#metaphorsofengagement
Key concepts for engaging people
http://www.gse.upenn.edu/ppce/coreconcepts.php#keyfactors#keyfactors
Naming and framing problems
http://www.gse.upenn.edu/ppce/coreconcepts.php#namingandframingproblems
#namingandframingproblems
Civic deliberation and civic capacity
http://www.gse.upenn.edu/ppce/
coreconcepts.php#civicdeliberation#civicdeliberation
-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony West <anthony_w...@earthlink.net>
Sent: Jan 28, 2009 8:48 PM
To: UnivCity Listserv <univcity@list.purple.com>
Subject: Re: [UC] Libraries and tactics that are doomed to failure
It's reasonable to be skeptical about a Penn-based attempt to
facilitate
a meeting over a conflict between some of its neighbors and itself.
That's not the situation before us in this case. The City budget gap
affects all Philadelphians, not just the 3% who live in University
City.
The budget is to Campus Inn as a watermelon is to a walnut. A Penn
entity makes just as much sense to the average Joe as anybody else's
entity, to organize large-scale, productive meetings. The work a Penn
team did on the waterfront a year or two ago drew high marks from all
the communities involved, and they had plenty of hot issues.
Penn doesn't have to ignore its own good while acting for the good of
others. All of us do the same thing; it's called "making a living."
For anyone who is "concerned about Penn's involvement with the ...
budget crisis, and what they expect to get ... in return," the
obvious
first step is to ask the Project for Civic Engagement, whose
director is
Dr. Harris Sokoloff. Its website is www.gse.upenn.edu/ppce/. While
Penn
could be giving it away, most academic projects are done for
contracts
-- and lots of government contracts -- in which money changes hands.
That's what they get in return. Also they get a good reputation,
which
helps them somewhere down the line, they hope.
Plus, it's possible some people at Penn, like some people on this
list,
see their city in a real bind and wish to pitch in something useful
toward that problem.
Will its public meetings accomplish anything in the end? That seems
like
a more reasonable suspicion. Wharton has been flinging buckets of
high-financial brains into Wall Street for a generation, and look
where
that's gotten us. On the other hand, nobody else knows what to do
either. So excluding Penn from any role in its city's fate seems
odd, to
say the least.
-- Tony West
KAREN ALLEN wrote:
Ray,
In reaction to that other response your post received, I too am
concerned with Penn's involvement with the City's budget crisis, and
with what they expect to get out of the city in return for their
involvement. Penn is not just some benign entity who is
unselfishly lending its expertise to the greater good. Of course
that's what they and their apologists want everyone to think: "Trust
us! This is all for your own good".
Ask the folks down on Woodland Terrace whether they trust Penn. Ask
those who attended the Philadelphia City Planning and Historical
Commission hearings and witnessed those charades. Ask those
attendees
who witnessed Chris O'Donnell "out" a new-to-the-neighborhood real
estate agent who testified in support of Campus Inn, but who
somehow
failed to mention that "coincidentally" he (the agent) got a big
condo
deal from Penn (not that one had anything to do with the other!!!).
Ask the folks from Spruce Hill Civic Association who quit that
organization in disgust after the Campus Inn debacle exposed how and
for whom that organization actually functions.
Trust Penn and in 20 years, 48th and Spruce will look like 38th and
Spruce does today.
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