laid down on the park is a granular organic 
>fertilizer that contains no herbicides or pesticides. "We have always 
>been very clear with Moon that we don't want anything like that used in 
>the park," said Bergheiser.


Neighbors, I explained to KC not to ever expect a straight answer from UCD! 

Does everyone notice what is conspicuously missing from this cleaner safer 
message?  What is the name of the product???  (Hahaha-Dexter checked the 
"organic" ingredients but forgot the name, which would allow us to verify the 
safety claims in the literature.)


Also, the Moon worker is being Fentonized in this false answer.  He was driving 
a contraption that sprays a liquid out the front, which has been discussed on 
this list before.  The worker placed the plaque on Baltimore, which accompanies 
the liquid product, and it tells people to stay off the grass until dry. (Now 
the product warning is dismissed and UCD is going to order that even this 
completely inadequate 2" x 2" warning won't be used to frighten us.)


Lew, from FOCP, also described this liquid a few years ago on the list.  Lew 
explained that he confronted a Moon worker.  The worker told Lew, it was "safe 
enough to drink"  When Lew asked him to take a swig, the worker declined. 

Do folks remember that story? It's the same warning plaque and the same liquid 
as that time.


UCD has treated us like idiots with its crap many times before.  Everyone 
should take the time and look for dandelions in Clark Park!  Were the 
dandelions wiped out by the swine flu?  (Dandelion are the hardy edible plants 
with yellow flowers.  Considered weeds, dandelions have been a primary target 
for weed killing agents used for decades on suburban lawns.  Poison is the 
honest word to describe these chemicals, no matter how much the corporations 
use words like "organic" and "safe" in their marketing.)


UCD could have told us what chemicals are used and at what times of year 
different chemicals are used, if they had any intention of being honest!  
(Manufactured fertilizers also pollute the water ways.  I believe, that it is 
the fertilizers that have been linked to dead zones in water systems like the 
Chesapeake.)  If one of the liquids placed on Clark park is a fertilizer, I 
doubt that many unsuspecting Clark park visitors want the liquid on their kids 
and dogs!


This evasive condescending answer to the legitimate concerns, expressed by many 
of us over the course of several years, is classic UCD.  We still don't know 
anything other than that we are "cleaner and safer".  UCD experts have 
everything under control, and we shouldn't worry our pretty little heads.  
Anyone like Glenn, who questions the secret liquid, is a paranoid wanker just 
as Tony has said for years!

Please check the park and see for yourselves that the dandelions have been 
wiped out by these secret chemicals!  This UCD answer should be considered, and 
it should finally convince folks about the total lack of credibility and 
condescending arrogance of UCD, as it dismisses the people of this 
community!!!!!!

Very sincerely,
Glenn




-----Original Message-----
>From: Anthony West <anthony_w...@earthlink.net>
>Sent: Sep 30, 2009 4:43 PM
>To: univcity serv <univcity@list.purple.com>
>Subject: Re: [UC] Poison alert, Clark Park Who payed for this?
>
>Kimm,
>
>I talked with UCD Executive Director Matt Bergheiser, who in turn 
>checked with his Director of Operations Dexter Bryant. Bryant told him 
>what Moon Site Mgmt. laid down on the park is a granular organic 
>fertilizer that contains no herbicides or pesticides. "We have always 
>been very clear with Moon that we don't want anything like that used in 
>the park," said Bergheiser.
>
>Why the signs, then? "We suspect it's a kind of historical accident," 
>Bergheiser said. They may be part of the Moon grounds crew's standard 
>toolkit. In general, having laid down material like this, groundskeepers 
>want it to rest undisturbed for a while and encourage the public not to 
>trample across it. After even a light rain like this morning's, it 
>should have settled enough, though. Bergheiser said no one should be 
>concerned about safety issues in contacting the material now, or in 
>disturbing its efficacy now. The job is done.
>
>"We apologize if these signs were misleading or scary," said Bergheiser, 
>"and we will work with the contractor to avoid this sort of mistake in 
>the future."
>
>-- Tony West
>
>
>Kimm Tynan wrote:
>>> I don't think it's nonsense, Tony.  In this day and age, chemical
>>> fertilizers and pesticides are pretty widely viewed as pretty backwards.
>>> Given Mayor Nutter's emphasis on being green, I think the issue of what
>>> chemicals are being pumped into Clark and other parks is an entirely valid
>>> one for public discussion - not just for safety of kids and pets but for
>>> broader ecological reasons.  And there's no need to be defensive -  I don't
>>> think anyone is accusing Moon Site Management of being evil people.  That
>>> doesn't mean folks can't raise issues with specific things they do that
>>> people might want changed.
>>>
>>> I think Glenn has a point.  Does anyone care if there are dandelions in
>>> Clark Park?  We all want grass in our park, but is fertilizer really
>>> necessary?  If so could we find a greener alternative?  Let's call Mike
>>> McGrath (from the radio, not the neighborhood)!
>
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