From the public listserv, Darco replies to Glenn on 5/27/11
"So, taking your view that Clark Park will soon have no trespassing
signs and a big red and blue P emblazoned on the new open area in Park A...
But wait, you say, we can vote them out of office! Yet every at-large
incumbent won in the primary. So, it seems that the voters don't share
your (or my) views."
Absolute lies, Darco! At first, I thought Tony West was using your e-mail!
Darco, I pleaded with you not to get caught up with the tactics of Tony
and the FOCP. This tactic you are now using, referred to as the straw
man fallacy, has been exposed on this public list. You need to use this
with a more ignorant audience, like the FOCP leaders have been doing for
a very long time!
It's a tactic used to intimidate the passive audience into remaining
silent, as they see how any and all dissent to concentrated power is
attacked. It's one of the most common tactics used by civic association
leaders, which is why I reprimanded you and made the connection.
There's no way to have a mature discussion with people using this tactic!
Now, I need to correct your straw man!
I actually express a diametrically opposite view, also shared by the
revolutionaries of Madrid and around the world.
The political elite from the international corporate party, whether or
not they are incumbents; must be removed from power by mass protest.
Voting for any of them has become completely irrelevant because we are
long past the point of no return!
There will be no "no trespassing signs" as Clark Park becomes
inhospitable to the former community portrayed as "prostitutes, gang,
members, and drug dealers." Permit rules and various police forces will
erect invisible but extreme barriers for the former community! This
barrier will be disproportionately directed at the poor, ethnic
minorities, immigrants and pro-democracy activists.
Ready for a serious discussion with mature adults,
Glenn
On 6/21/2011 10:25 AM, Lalevic, Darco wrote:
"Darco, I was extremely disappointed that you'd chosen the FOCP tactics."
Glenn-
It's funny (or sad) that the more I hear from you, the more convinced
I become of the most extreme things said of you. I have absolutely no
motivation to lie or distort the truth or defend FOCP or UCD. I have
no history of interaction with most of the people involved. In fact,
while I recognize the benefits of the UCD, FOCP, and the general
gentrification of my neighborhood (yes, I'm very proud to have lived
here my entire life), it's my criticisms and disagreements of some of
trends in the neighborhood that have pushed me to become more involved.
On many things, we clearly agree (the dangers of rising corporatism,
the use of chemicals on public park land), but your intentional
warping and muddying of facts so closely resembles exactly what you
accuse the FOCP (and others of), that it becomes preposterous.
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