Thank you Brian. Your post was helpful, eminently responsible, and well thought out + explained. I would be interested in a few clarifications if it would be alright, and if you have access to such info....
How much would a picnic permit for oh let's say a dozen people be? Would there be some insurance cost or mandated regulation(s) regarding having insurance? Would it be a price that was fixed or would the charges be meted out more or less in an arbitrary fashion? What about the costs/mandates etc. if a group wanted to hold a political meeting or rally (or another type - eg. religious, or social gathering)? What about the costs/mandates etc. for a music concert or film group? When I hit "reply all" the Mail Delivery Subsystem will tell me: "We're writing to let you know that the group you tried to contact (ucneighbors) may not exist, or you may not have permission to post messages to the group." Kyle banned me from UCNeighbors; so only the less dictatorial <univcity@list.purple.com> group will see this response to your posting. Peace and Love, Rick Conrad On Jun 14, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Brian Siano wrote: > http://ucreview.com/contrary-to-the-rumors-new-regulations-issued-from-parks-rec-do-not-aim-p3445-73.htm > > Contrary to the rumors, new regulations issued from Parks & Rec do not > aim to privatize public parks > Clark Park in University City, which has recently formed an activities > committee in response to new rules passed from the Department of Parks > and Recreation. Photo: Nicole Contosta > UC Review > • Wed, Jun 13, 2012 > > By Nicole Contosta > Staff Reporter > > > Rumors, whether juicy or titillating to hear, often skew the facts. > They’re either completely untrue, or they’re wildly exaggerated. And > there’s one rumor buzzing throughout the city that our publications > would like to squash. And that pertains to the new rules implemented > by the Philadelphia Department of Parks and Recreation concerning > permits for picnics and special events. Some seem to think that the > new rules result from a conspiracy between certain institutions and > community organizations as a way to make public parks private. Some of > these rumors have even alleged that certain park associations will use > the picnic permit laws to force an individual eating a sandwich or > group of individuals playing chess from the park because those people > are considered "undesirable." > > For the record, those rumors are both untrue and wildly exaggerated. > After first hearing them, this reporter made a quick call to the > city’s Special Events Office for clarification. After asking the > representative if a park user would need a permit to either eat a > snack or play chess, the representative laughed before issuing a > resounding, "No!" The representative then went on to clarify that the > ways that a picnic permit could affect those without one. And that > would occur if a group of people, who had received a permit to host a > picnic in a designated area, asked those not invited to the picnic to > leave that designated area within the park. > > Frank Chance, a former President of Friends of Clark Park (FoCP), > echoed that explanation in an over the phone interview. > > "None of this [the new rules] applies to four people who want to sit > in the park, have sandwiches and soda. That’s fine," Chance said. > > "It only gets complicated when people want to reserve an area to do > different things. And we [the FoCP] want to make that fair to > everyone." > > That’s one of the reasons why the FoCP has formed an Activity Location > Committee, which met for the first time on June 7th. The committee’s > formation came in response to new rules issued after the merger > between Fairmount Park and the city’s Rec Department. The Department > of Recreation will now designate certain areas of city parks for > either picnics, sporting activities and special events, Chance > explained. As a result, the FoCP formed the Activity Location > Committee as a way to make recommendations to the Department of Parks > and Recreation for where those designated areas will be in Clark Park. > While the Department of Parks and Recreation will make the final > decision, the FoCP, "did not like the idea of Parks and Recreation > making a decision without community input. And Parks and Rec does not > like that either," Chance explained. "They want community input." > Chance, then went on to encourage those engaged in the park’s use to > join the Activity Location Committee, which has many future meetings > planned before it finalizing any recommendations. > > Thus far, it’s proved a complicated process. For instance, when it > comes to making recommendations for areas designated for picnics, some > people suggested the seating section set up in the park’s plaza. > However, many opposed that suggestion because it would deny the > general public access. When it came to sporting activities, concern > was also generated over designated sporting areas. For instance, if > the "bowl" was designated as the sport activities area, some expressed > concern over where park users would be allowed to play spontaneous > "pick-up" soccer games, Chance explained, adding that the > recommendations the Activity Location Committee plans to make on > sporting activities "are farther down the line." > > In the interim, the FoCP, "would love to hear the community’s > response," Chance said. > > For more information on the new picnic and special event permits > throughout the city to to www.phila.gov/recreation. > ---- > You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the > list named "UnivCity." 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