Hmm.

I think you might have to do surgery.

In RAM terms, there are important differences between the 8500 and 9500. The 9500 has its L2 cache soldered to the mobo; the 8500 has a slot-in cache. Other than that, the types of RAM they take, and the rules for interleaving are the same only the RAM capacity changes.

I have experimented with five different TNT mobos of the type found in the 8500.

Some will run stably at 50 MHz with interleaved RAM and L2 cache.
Some don't like interleaved RAM.
Some don't like cache at this bus speed, but are stable at a lesser bus speed (say 45 MHz).


So finding a stable combo of board, RAM, cache and cpu card can be very hit and miss.

This isn't necessarily the cause of your woes: I'm simply reporting that the PowerSurge boards are INCREDIBLY temperamental. Great when coaxed to work. B*st*rds when they won't.

GWW

On 12 Feb 2004, at 21:56, Simon wrote:

>
   *     Subject: Re: Can't cold boot into X
   *      Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 13:04:59 -0800

From: John McGibney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I have an 8500 running panther. I can't cold boot into Panther even when it
was last run in X before shutdown and the X volume is selected as the
startup volume. On cold starts I get the grey apple screen followed by the
grey circle with a line thru it.


It could be that the X drive isn't spinning up fast enough to be ready when
the machine is otherwise ready to proceed. Try powering up, waiting a few
seconds, and then pressing reset so the boot process starts over. This will
give the drive extra time to get ready.


Dan


Dan, I don't think that's the problem. Because the exact same drive with the
exact same OS-X install worked in my 9500. It was swapped into the 8500
along with the SCSI and other ATA drives, as well as the G3 card. That's why
I believe its a problem with the 8500.

John,


If you transplanted the 9500 internals into the 8500 haw can there be a difference? Or did I miss something and you only transplanted the drives, PCI cards, G3 processor etc.

Is there a reason you need the 8500 over the 9500? If not then why not go back to 9500 which, as you said works

Simon

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