Yes, 4 GB is minimal but should suuport what I need - this is in a school with a limited set of applications.

I don't know about this? I've cloned super-minimal 10.3 installations onto 2.5 GB drives, but it didn't really work too well. They recommend 4 GB minimum free space, so that really means 6-to-8 GB for a minimal installation. I don't think your configuration is useable. I'm at 2.5 GB free space right now on a 120 GB drive and it's barely useable, and twice as slow as it was yesterday with 6.5 GB free space. I'm going to reboot and clear space ASAP just to get going again. I think there was a good reason they suggested 4 GB minimal free space.


The 4GB HD is formatted by OS 9, is empty - but the install won't even start as xpf shows the drives, shows the install CD, but will not allow me to select them. I don't think I have got far enough for any problems with the HD, etc to arise. I've configured the obvious - input from the keyboard, output to Surely someone else has experienced a similar problem?

Are you sure in the main XPF window the small box in the upper right that says "Restart in:" has the "Mac OS X" selected and not the "Mac OS 9" ?


If this doesn't work, I think you need to go back to OS 9.x and use Drive Setup again and be sure to select Options "Zero all data" and "low level format".

One other suggestion:

I recently obtained my first 8500 and had major troubles with a universal OS 9.1 installer that "didn't recognize the computer". The Gestalt ID # (Apple System Profiler machine ID #) was listed as 110 when booted in 9.1; and 1206 in the same 9.1 as Classic; and an "8500" in System Profiler of 10.3. There is something strange about this, and I think it's a problem. There are several utilities that can change the Gestalt ID #. One a Control Strip Module available at OS9forever.com in the weblogs area. It only allows the choice of BeigeG3 and New World ID's, but is easy to use and BeigeG3 will allow most installers, I've never tried New World, but who knows? Here's a description and link:

New! OS9 Helper Control Strip Module released 8/12/03
I finally got around do making a CSM that switches machine IDs on the fly. This can be a big help for those pesky installers like Disc Burner & Authoring Support that require you to have a newer machine. The OS9 Helper CSM allows you to temporarily switch your machine ID right from the control strip. You can choose from a New World machine, a Beige G3, or switch back to your machine's default. Just drop the file in your Control Strip Modules folder inside your System Folder and restart. Let me know what you think.
http://www.os9forever.com/downloads/os9helper/release/os9helpercsm.sit

The other is called Mach ID Wannabe: It allows selection of any ID you what. It's an application that runs in Mac OS, and perhaps Classic?
http://homepage.mac.com/WebObjects/FileSharing.woa/wa/default? user=cywong&templatefn=FileSharing.html&aff=consumer&cty=US&lang=en


Either of these could help the installer because it appears that the 8500 ID wasn't incorporated into some Mac installers, and is reported differently in the official Mac Specifications (says it should be ID # 69, same as 8600 and others in the Quadra800 form-factor.

Good luck! Kris



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