On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 9:00 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Send UPHPU mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of UPHPU digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Which application environment is proper for begining php? > (Kyle Waters) > 2. Re: Which application environment is proper for begining php? > (Scott Hill) > 3. Re: Which application environment is proper for begining php? > (Walt Haas) > 4. Re: Which application environment is proper for begining php? > (Michael Jones) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 09:20:29 -0600 > From: Kyle Waters <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [UPHPU] Which application environment is proper for > begining php? > To: uphpu <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > anil ozsoy wrote: > > Hi all > > > > Here are my new questions :) > > > > Could you pls tell me? which application environment is proper for > begining > > php?Why? > > What is the beneficial side of using this productions? > > Thanks for help > > > > > Maybe we better get more background. We are all assuming where you are > coming from(and looks like I've over assumed, as others have noted). > Have you programmed before? What languages? Do you know html? What > are you hoping to do with PHP? What enviroments have you used to > program in the past? > > I used to use Blue Fish because it had button to do html tags, but I > found I type everything by hand anyway now that I know HTML, so I > switched to gedit and vim. They both do syntax highlighting very well. > I've found little use for any ide with php, but may be others have > different experiences. > > Kyle > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 09:32:45 -0600 > From: Scott Hill <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [UPHPU] Which application environment is proper for > begining php? > To: Kyle Waters <[email protected]> > Cc: uphpu <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Kyle Waters <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Maybe we better get more background. We are all assuming where you are > > coming from(and looks like I've over assumed, as others have noted). > Have > > you programmed before? What languages? Do you know html? What are you > > hoping to do with PHP? What enviroments have you used to program in the > > past? > > I used to use Blue Fish because it had button to do html tags, but I > found > > I type everything by hand anyway now that I know HTML, so I switched to > > gedit and vim. They both do syntax highlighting very well. I've found > > little use for any ide with php, but may be others have different > > experiences. > > Kyle > > > > > A man after my own heart! If you don't know Vi (Vim) and you are more used > to WIndows type editors, then check out some of the free php editors that > are available. Start simple. IMHO unless you are doing some AJAX, you > don't > need an IDE. Even having said that, Firefox can tell you exactly where > your > AJAX javascript booboos are. > > > > > -- > > Scott Hill > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 10:37:43 -0600 > From: Walt Haas <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [UPHPU] Which application environment is proper for > begining php? > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > anil ozsoy wrote: > > Hi all > > > > Here are my new questions :) > > > > Could you pls tell me? which application environment is proper for > begining > > php?Why? > > What is the beneficial side of using this productions? > > > I use Netbeans 6.5 and/or Emacs. > > Netbeans has a good interface to Xdebug so that I can step through code > line by line, which is nice for debugging. Netbeans also gives you easy > ways to navigate through very large programs. > > Emacs is small and fast and lets you do a lot with a few keystrokes, if > you know the combinations. But it doesn't give you tools for > interactive debugging or much support for navigating large programs. > > -- Walt > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 11:08:06 -0600 > From: Michael Jones <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [UPHPU] Which application environment is proper for > begining php? > To: Scott Hill <[email protected]> > Cc: uphpu <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > There are more benefits to using an IDE than just being "used to Windows > type editors". I haven't used Windows for development for years, and I > still use an IDE for some tasks. It all depends on what you're doing > with it. > > In Anil's case, an IDE like Aptana or Zend would likely be beneficial > because of the autocompletion, syntax verification and highlighting. > Others who develop professionally (like myself) find the built in SVN > tools and project organization to be extremely helpful for large scale > projects. I'm still prone to edit a script with Vi, nano or pico, or > any random text editor that happens to be available... but that's simply > because I'm already comfortable with doing so. > > Starting out, it's nice to have some extra functionality at hand to give > you hints as to where problems are in the code. It's a lot less > frustrating to have a line highlighted than to be trying to locate an > error when you're unfamiliar with the code. > > Once you get comfortable writing in PHP, then you can experiment in > different environments to see what works best for you. > > Scott Hill wrote: > > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Kyle Waters<[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > >> Maybe we better get more background. We are all assuming where you are > >> coming from(and looks like I've over assumed, as others have noted). > Have > >> you programmed before? What languages? Do you know html? What are you > >> hoping to do with PHP? What enviroments have you used to program in the > >> past? > >> I used to use Blue Fish because it had button to do html tags, but I > found > >> I type everything by hand anyway now that I know HTML, so I switched to > >> gedit and vim. They both do syntax highlighting very well. I've found > >> little use for any ide with php, but may be others have different > >> experiences. > >> Kyle > >> > >> > >> > > A man after my own heart! If you don't know Vi (Vim) and you are more > used > > to WIndows type editors, then check out some of the free php editors that > > are available. Start simple. IMHO unless you are doing some AJAX, you > don't > > need an IDE. Even having said that, Firefox can tell you exactly where > your > > AJAX javascript booboos are. > > > > > >> -- > >> Scott Hill > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > UPHPU mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu > > IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > _______________________________________________ > > UPHPU mailing list > [email protected] > http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu > IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net > > End of UPHPU Digest, Vol 57, Issue 11 > ************************************* >
Actually I have a few experience for java, .net and Microsoft c# technologies(I'm not a professional).So i used to visual studio and it's environment.May be the environment which is similar to visual studio can be a jump stage for me.For the next,my main purpose to learn php is to create web applications which are independent from Microsoft platform. Thanks again. _______________________________________________ UPHPU mailing list [email protected] http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
