Katampi...sun..., disuhun di dung-dung eta seratan Ambu, kang Firman Raharja, 
katampi pisan.
Serata dina milis ieu, sapalihna kusimkuring di simpen dina Blog : 
http://sukapura.wordpress.com
janten upami aya tambihan/pendapat katerangan ngenaan sebatan Raden, urang di 
kempelkeun, kantenan upami aya referensinamah langkusng sae.
mangga kanu sanesna,...
Hatur nuhun, rampes...
baktos,
AW

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: richadiana kartakusuma 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 9:13 PM
  Subject: Re: [kisunda] GELAR BANGSAWAN =FEODAL > HATURAN INGKANG WRA anu 
BUDIMAN


  Ieu mah mung kaleresan nu ku abdi katampi...tapi duka kaango henteu na mah 
teu langkung, nyanggakeun wae kana pangersa
   
  sayaktosna mah Wetan sareng Kulon dina nganggo elar ka-Menak-an teu benten, 
mung saukur ku beda nyebat wae. Upamina di prasasti2 nu ti Wetan sadayana 
bangsawan utamina Mataram Kuno (nu diluluguan ku karuhun Sanjaya "Senna" ti 
Galuh= Ciamis) sok dipayunan ku gelarv "Rakryan - Rakarayan = Rakai" > tina ra 
- ka- raya - an ; upami dina naskah2 Sunda buhun rakryan teh disebat "Rakean"

  Salah sawios buktos (conto): 
  1) Sanjaya dina prasasti ti Mataram disebat Rakai Mataram Sang Ratu           
                      Sanjaya; Sanjaya dina Sunda Buhun disebat Rakean Jambri = 
Ra hiyang Sanjaya 

  2) Ciung Wanara alias Manarah = Rakean Manarah (di Sunda buhun) = Rakai 
Manara     dina prasasti ti wetan...dst.
  3) Gelar "Rahadyan" mah ka-ayeunakeun > sami keneh hartosna mung nyaeta       
          seueur dianggo ku Urang Wetan> teras ka kulonkeun saatos Abad ka -17 
Masehi         tea (Sultan Agung). Tapi di salah sawios we2ngkon Sunda (hilap 
deui mung                 disebatkeun teh ku Kang Yunan Buana ) > rehna di 
we2ngkon anjeuna "menak2"      teh disebatna "Tohaan" . Gelar ieu teh di Sunda 
mah dilarapkeun kangge raja             diantawisna Tohaan di Sunda (Tarusbawa)
  4) aya oge anu disebat "daleum - dalem"  sami sareng di wetan hartosna 
kulakadang      istana keneh mung istilahna "jero"

  Mung nguningkeun wae....hapunten bilih lpat

  Tabe pun ti abdi nu bodo
  Ambu Wirumananggay
   

  ----- Original Message ----
  From: Wirabudiman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: urangsunda@yahoogroups.com
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, July 6, 2008 4:29:51 PM
  Subject: [kisunda] Re: [Urang Sunda] re: Raden-Juragan Pangaruh PEODAL




        -------Original Message----- --
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        From: firman raharja
        Date: 7/6/2008 2:02:37 AM
        To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com
        Subject: Re: [Urang Sunda] re: Raden-Juragan Pangaruh PEODAL



        Punten mairan bari nyalenggor sakedik

        Asana mah raden (=rahadian) the geus dipake Ku menak it wetan it 
baheula keneh
        Dina carita (sajarah) ngeunaan Dewa Niskala, disebutkeun yen manehna the
        Nulungan "Raden Baribin" anu kabur ka galuh pedah karajaanna 
(majapahit?) di buburak
        Jadi can aya hubungan jeung panjajah

        Saterusna nurutkeun kuring mah raden (di sunda) 
        Mangrupakeun pangaruh /budaya it wetan
        Anu mahabu di sunda sanggeus sunda kapangaruhan Ku mataram
        Nyaeta sumedang saeunggeus jaman suriadiwangsa (Rangga Gempol)

        Panginten
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        Sae-sae, nambihan sajarahna rada ka palih luhur....nuhun. .nuhun kana 
panambihna. 
             
             
             
       



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