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----- Original Message ----- From: richadiana kartakusuma To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [kisunda] GELAR BANGSAWAN =FEODAL > HATURAN INGKANG WRA anu BUDIMAN Ieu mah mung kaleresan nu ku abdi katampi...tapi duka kaango henteu na mah teu langkung, nyanggakeun wae kana pangersa sayaktosna mah Wetan sareng Kulon dina nganggo elar ka-Menak-an teu benten, mung saukur ku beda nyebat wae. Upamina di prasasti2 nu ti Wetan sadayana bangsawan utamina Mataram Kuno (nu diluluguan ku karuhun Sanjaya "Senna" ti Galuh= Ciamis) sok dipayunan ku gelarv "Rakryan - Rakarayan = Rakai" > tina ra - ka- raya - an ; upami dina naskah2 Sunda buhun rakryan teh disebat "Rakean" Salah sawios buktos (conto): 1) Sanjaya dina prasasti ti Mataram disebat Rakai Mataram Sang Ratu Sanjaya; Sanjaya dina Sunda Buhun disebat Rakean Jambri = Ra hiyang Sanjaya 2) Ciung Wanara alias Manarah = Rakean Manarah (di Sunda buhun) = Rakai Manara dina prasasti ti wetan...dst. 3) Gelar "Rahadyan" mah ka-ayeunakeun > sami keneh hartosna mung nyaeta seueur dianggo ku Urang Wetan> teras ka kulonkeun saatos Abad ka -17 Masehi tea (Sultan Agung). Tapi di salah sawios we2ngkon Sunda (hilap deui mung disebatkeun teh ku Kang Yunan Buana ) > rehna di we2ngkon anjeuna "menak2" teh disebatna "Tohaan" . Gelar ieu teh di Sunda mah dilarapkeun kangge raja diantawisna Tohaan di Sunda (Tarusbawa) 4) aya oge anu disebat "daleum - dalem" sami sareng di wetan hartosna kulakadang istana keneh mung istilahna "jero" Mung nguningkeun wae....hapunten bilih lpat Tabe pun ti abdi nu bodo Ambu Wirumananggay ----- Original Message ---- From: Wirabudiman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: urangsunda@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 6, 2008 4:29:51 PM Subject: [kisunda] Re: [Urang Sunda] re: Raden-Juragan Pangaruh PEODAL -------Original Message----- -- //---------- --------- --------- --- From: firman raharja Date: 7/6/2008 2:02:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Subject: Re: [Urang Sunda] re: Raden-Juragan Pangaruh PEODAL Punten mairan bari nyalenggor sakedik Asana mah raden (=rahadian) the geus dipake Ku menak it wetan it baheula keneh Dina carita (sajarah) ngeunaan Dewa Niskala, disebutkeun yen manehna the Nulungan "Raden Baribin" anu kabur ka galuh pedah karajaanna (majapahit?) di buburak Jadi can aya hubungan jeung panjajah Saterusna nurutkeun kuring mah raden (di sunda) Mangrupakeun pangaruh /budaya it wetan Anu mahabu di sunda sanggeus sunda kapangaruhan Ku mataram Nyaeta sumedang saeunggeus jaman suriadiwangsa (Rangga Gempol) Panginten ------------ --------- --------- ---// Sae-sae, nambihan sajarahna rada ka palih luhur....nuhun. .nuhun kana panambihna.