Hi Brian, I'm a Usability Engineer and I use and tinker with some Linux distros such as Ubuntu (I'm not a developer though). I'd like to come to the Usability Hackfest and help out with some research, planning, and discussion. I notice that the GNOME summit goes on for the entire 3 day weekend. http://live.gnome.org/Boston2009
If I could only commit to coming to one day of the 'fest. Which day would you recommend? Thanks, Dan On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 8:00 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Send Usability mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/usability > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Usability digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Ideas for Usability Hackfest (Brian Cameron) > 2. Re: Requesting a right-click root menu for GNOME 3 > (Anzan Hoshin Roshi) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:15:54 -0500 > From: Brian Cameron <[email protected]> > To: Ted Gould <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Usability] Ideas for Usability Hackfest > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > > Ted: > > > On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 17:36 -0500, Brian Cameron wrote: > >> - GNOME Foundation Mobile Usability Lab > >> - Next revision of the GNOME HIG > >> - Usability Data > >> - Ongoing Usability > > > > They all sound good. I guess my only concern is that it is much easier > > to gather the data than analyze it. That was what was most interesting > > to me with the inGIMP stuff is the calibration to sit down sessions, > > then the ability to use that more broadly. > > > > Of the list there, I think the HIG is probably the highest priority to > > me. There is now lots that it doesn't cover :) > > I encourage you to discuss ways that you think the HIG should be > improved. It would be good to have more discussion. > > >> The Boston Summit is coming up in a few weeks (October 10-12). I am > >> wondering how many usability people are going to this event. If there > >> is an interest, and enough people going, we could plan to get together > >> there and discuss these ideas further. Any interest? > > > > I'll be there, let's talk! I unfortunately have to leave Sunday night > > so earlier rather than later please :) > > Sounds good. I think there will be a fair group of Usability people at > the Boston Summit, so lets plan to spend some time working on these > things. > > >> So, I am interested to hear what people think. I am interested to know > >> who is interested, who are the right people to be involved with a > >> project like this, and who might be available to help with > >> organizational things. > > > > I suck at organizational things, but I'm willing to try and help. > > I think just participating in the discussion is the best way to help. > A lot of decisions need to be made in terms of how to improve the HIG. > > Brian > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 21:32:39 -0400 > From: Anzan Hoshin Roshi <[email protected]> > To: Rick Spencer <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Usability] Requesting a right-click root menu for GNOME > 3 > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hello Again, > > 2009/10/1 Rick Spencer <[email protected]> > > > I agree with Stormy. It's not an "either/or" discussion. New users and > > frequent users should both like the system. > > > > Probably the easiest way to get a list of what usability is "about", is > to > > start with Jakob Nielsen's list of heuristics for his heuristic review > > method. This stuff has stood the test of time. > > > > The "power user" heuristic is: > > Flexibility and efficiency of use - > > Accelerators -- unseen by the novice user -- may often speed up the > > interaction for the expert user such that the system can cater to both > > inexperienced and experienced users. Allow users to tailor frequent > actions. > > > > wikipedia has a good write up: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heuristic_evaluation > > > > --- On Thu, 10/1/09, Stormy Peters <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > From: Stormy Peters <[email protected]> > > > Subject: Re: [Usability] Requesting a right-click root menu for GNOME 3 > > > To: "Karoliina Salminen" <[email protected]> > > > Cc: "Anzan Hoshin Roshi" <[email protected]>, > > [email protected] > > > Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 7:39 AM > > > Usability is not just about making > > > things easy for novice users. It's about making an > > > intuitive interface for people - all people. > > > My understanding is that many of the difficulties arise > > > in the trade offs between the types of users. > > > Stormy > > > > Thank you, Stormy and Rick. > > Whether a right-click root menu is implemented or not (but as GNOME 3 is as > yet far off so I ask it be contemplated), my issue is that I would like to > use GNOME. > > The stack is good (though sometimes precarious in Ubuntu so that a snag in > Pidgin has sometimes required a reboot instead of just killing X and > starting a new session) but the apps and basic framework are fantastic. I > started out with apple in 1987, did Win 95 and up, tried Xandros (sound > didn't work), then Vista finally gave me the final reason to not just use > GIMP and OO.org and so on but a free OS. I've used GNOME in Debian, Gentoo, > and Ubuntu. > > Rebooting because I couldn't trace a problem with the whole GNOME DE loaded > in Ubuntu made me look to Fluxbox for a more easily debuggable system,. > which I find does what I need. But I still would like to be able to use > GNOME. (I've tried KDE 3.5 and 4, Xmonad, Windowmaker, Awesome and so on.) > I > like GNOME. I will use its apps and underthings in and under Fluxbox. But I > would like to be able to just use GNOME. > > I am not a "poweruser". I use X, after all. And the monastics here at Zen > Centre do not regard themselves as such. One said to me regarding this > conversation today, "But I'm an old lady and I want a root menu at > right-click." As forme, I just need to be able to get to and do tasks. > > At the very least, I would appreciate it if GNOME devs bear in mind that > the > new "Shell" might or might not be useful to some new and old users but they > could also provide a way for people to use GNOME without being distracted > <i>by</i> GNOME and having to fiddle with obtrusive imaginary artifiacts to > get to a workspace, document, or file. The Desktop is not a place, it is > just a metaphor for a file. Right-clicking there (or even on any file) > could > give a menu option. If chosen, then users would be able to just do what > they > want to do instead of flinging the cursor about to aim st this or that > cartoon image. > > Please, just do not make the "Shell" unavoidablle and provide easily > acessible means of configuring the DE. > > Thank you for your patience in reading this. And thanks also for your work > on FLOSS. My teeth would fall out without it. > > Yours, > Anzan Hoshin > http://wwzc.org > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/attachments/20091001/95814f3b/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Usability mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/usability > > > End of Usability Digest, Vol 66, Issue 3 > **************************************** >
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