Hi Thorwil,

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 13:33, Thorsten Wilms <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 18:28 +0800, Allan Caeg wrote:
>
> > Conventions in Windows and OS X are evolving (see the ribbon interface
> > and app buttons on Office, Paint, etc.) while the Linux desktop is
> > limited (probably) because we can't make new things work everywhere
> > (different window managers, desktop environments, etc.).
> >
> >
> > What do we do about this? People involved in the Windicators project
> > (I'm not) may know something that could help.
>
> Short to mid term: define and evaluate desired changes and make it
> happen for those applications and environments that really matter.
> Likely huge problem with finding consensus across GNOME, KDE and leading
> distros.
>
> Side note: while getting rid of menu bars might be cool for a browser or
> file manager, it's hard to imagine for something like Inkscape, GIMP or
> Ardour.
>
> Ideal long term solution: Have applications (or modules) define their
> commands and options in a more abstract way. With enough weighting and
> relational information that a framework can build menus or ribbons or
> whatever else might come up.
>

aha so you are suggesting indicator appmenu should become a symbolic or
condensed representation of local menus?
I would like to add toolbars to this approach.

right now i'm using epiphany-browser without toolbars.
It is exciting to see what happens everytime i press CTRL+L to get the
address bar. Great thinking by the Epiphany devs here!!!
Now, all i miss is a forward, backward and reload/cancel button in the panel
next to a basic application menu.
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