Le 18 févr. 2011 à 23:55, Chipp Walters a écrit :

> The most interesting point, IMO, is the one Richard alludes to. Most people 
> don't know this, but it's simple to create a website, which runs in iOS 
> Safari, and has a button, PUT THIS WEB APP ON MY IPAD. Pressing the button 
> allows a user to place the web app, including glossy icon, directly on the 
> iPad's desktop. 
> 
> And by creating such an app, developers gets to:
> 
> - Bypass completely the AppStore
> - Update the App as quickly and often as they likes
> - Access specific API's in iOS
> - Keep money for themselves 
> - Run on multiple platforms, not just iOS.
> 
> I suppose if one plays this out to a logical conclusion, assuming Apple 
> doesn't capitulate and maintains it's desire for control, Apple will at some 
> time in the future remove this feature from iOS. 

I don't think they can do this and stay a trustable company for any of their 
customers outside of the ones their could get as replacement out of the Chinese 
Communist Party...
> 
> And, just when are we going to see all of this greedy goodness come to the 
> Mac? My guess is sooner than later- but it will be gradual, probably with 
> plenty of Apple fans to cheer them on. For instance, last I checked you can 
> offer a free program in the Mac store, then drive customers to your website 
> to purchase the feature enhanced version. I assume Steve will be changing 
> that soon in a new set of license terms. Seems like Apple changes their mind 
> on licensing about as often as Lindsay Lohan changes hers on staying sober. 
> And both wonder why people make such a big deal. :-)
> 
> The other point concerning a monopoly-- Apple right now has THE monopoly on 
> mobile tablets. That much is clear.
> 
> My guess is Amazon doesn't mind playing chicken with Apple on this. They can 
> afford to not change Kindle and wait until Apple throws them off iOS, then 
> cry foul and sue Apple, meanwhile offering discounts to iPad customers on 
> Android tablets and Kindles. Heck, they might even try to support a class 
> action lawsuit for those people (like Andre and myself) who don't own a 
> Kindle, yet have dozens of books on our iPad, which we could not then use.
> 
> If that comes to pass, Apple will continue to look like a controlling big 
> brother company-- which at some point will take it's toll. Probably soon 
> after Jobs leaves us, as the rumors are the company doesn't have much of a 
> succession plan.
> 
> It will be interesting!
> 
> Chipp Walters
> CEO, Shafer Walters Group, Inc
> 
> On Feb 18, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Richard Gaskin <ambassa...@fourthworld.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Bob Sneidar wrote:
>> 
>>> I think if Apple maintains it's position they are going to alienate
>>> the major developers.
>> 
>> Agreed, though the major issue here is with content publishers more than 
>> developers, and publishers have another option available that can make far 
>> more money for them:  the web = iOS + the entire rest of the world.
>> 
>> Rather than spending themselves silly making single-platform apps, they can 
>> just go back to the web and get 100% of the world's eyeballs at a much lower 
>> cost -- and they keep 100% of all revenues in doing so.
>> 
>> Earn more, spend less. Makes good business sense for content publishers to 
>> blow off the app store entirely.
>> 
>> 
>>> It may be that Apple is not after the major developers anyway, and
>>> are thinking about small developers...
>> 
>> ..of which there are many...
>> 
>>> who start out selling an app on the store, hit huge success with it...
>> 
>> ...of which there are very few.
>> 
>> Last time I saw any stats on this, it looked to me a very long tail: only 
>> the top 100 were making serious money, the second 100 making about what most 
>> of us make on desktop apps, and all the rest of the 350,000 apps there were 
>> earning somewhere between minimum wage and zero.
>> 
>> 
>>> ...and then try to market out of store to avoid paying Apple.
>> 
>> Even fewer.
>> 
>> The conflict here is about content publishers, and as long as there is a WWW 
>> they have a more profitable option awaiting them.  Now that they're no 
>> longer as dazzled by the novelty of the iPad, they can settle down and get 
>> back to business basics.
>> 
>> 
>>> If the DOJ goes after Apple, it may end up that the people who
>>> thought that Apple was going to rule the world can rest easier.
>>> I guess in a healthy economy everything eventually balances
>>> everything else. I don't understand Antitrust though. I thought
>>> that was when multiple companies selling a similar product conspire
>>> to fix prices. Wouldn't it fall more under Monopoly?
>> 
>> Hard to say how that will pan out; there are precendents both ways.  I'm no 
>> attorney, but the Sherman Act does have a few things to say about price 
>> fixing even outside of monopolies.
>> 
>> Still, I don't imagine this will come to much, as the savvier publishers 
>> will just go back to the web and make more money.
>> 
>> --
>> Richard Gaskin
>> Fourth World
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