I am hoping some macOS guru out there can explain this in some way that
makes sense.
LiveCode 9.6.x supports Windows 7 to 10 and macOS 10.9.5 and up (10.16
aka 11.x aka Big Sur)
I wanted to know what the default fonts are for each OS and version for
Windows and macOS. Google returned a number of sources, such as:
https://www.granneman.com/webdev/coding/css/fonts-and-formatting/default-fonts#mac-os-xos-xmacos
The above page is very clear for Windows > Segue UI for 7, 8, 8.1 and 10
Mac OS has Lucida Grande for Mavericks, then Helvetica Neue for Yosemite
(10.10) and "San Francisco" from 10.11 and up, although this link above
does not list 10.15 nor 10.16, but other google searches on Catalina say
San Francisco.
My problem is "put the effective textFont of fld 1" for a new stack and
single field, returns "Segue UI" on Windows (all versions I have tested on)
On Mohave (10.14) (my mac's OS), I get "(Text)" and futher, if I lick on
properties for the field and the "A" or font properties and look at the
font list under Mohave, there is NO "San Francisco". I see a couple
Lucida Grande and a WHOLE LOT of Helvetica Neue's, but no "San Francisco"
Is the internet wrong on this or is this font hidden or what the heck is
going on. If I search Apple's developer site for variations of 'Catalina
default font' or 'Big Sur default font', I get to pages like:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211240 (for Big Sur, but pretty much
the same for Catalina) where it list all installed fonts and there is a
Lucida Grande and Helvetica Neue's, but again NO San Francisco.
I think I recall this came up previously as to why 'effective' textFont
of an object does not return an ACTUAL font name, which still seems like
a bug to me, but I vaguely recall there was some reason for it.
My objective is to store the defaults for a given OS and version on
startup of my application, so that if the user uses existing controls to
change fonts in various places, I cna provide a means to "Reset" them to
the defaults
I gather from the Dictionary entries for textFont and fontNames that
just setting the textFont of a field to "(Default)" will reset it to the
applicable default for the control type (field) and OS and OS version.
Does this work on Windows? If so, then WHY does "effective textFont" on
Windows return Segue UI but on macOS returns (Text), another of these
placeholder font names described in the fontNames function entry?
Any help making sense of this would be welcome.
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