Back in the olden days I had a MacBook with a built-in modem, I think it was 1200 baud but maybe it was 14.4. We went up to the north shore of Lake Superior every year for a few days and back then it was about as remote as it gets. The cabin we stayed in had a ruidmentary phone line that went in and out depending on the satelite's mood and how cloudy it was, which was most of the time. I brought a 20 foot phone cable with me and stretched it from the tiny bedroom at the back, where the only phone outlet was, to the "living room" up front across from the wood burning stove, plugged it into the MacBook, and logged into AOL which was the only online service that hadn't yet folded at the time. A few years after that a coffee shop in the little town to the north got an internet connection and I gave up on the phone line. We drove 10 miles into town every day or so, bought a coffee and I logged in to get my email. (Bong bong screeeech bong bong, "YOU'VE GOT MAIL!")

When my nephew was young he asked me why I didn't learn programming in high school. I told him there were no personal computers back then. The look on his face indicated he was surprised I hadn't yet mummified.


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On December 22, 2021 7:15:55 PM Alex Tweedly via use-livecode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

OK, memory lane time.

Before we had 1200 baud modems, we used to use acoustic couplers. I
often used one to call from the main office (England) to our US office,
at a mind-blowing 300 baud.

Problem was, in those days (1978 I think), even voice transatlantic
calls were hit or miss. Often you got a undersea cable connection
(slight delay and echo, but you could have an almost normal
conversation), other times you got a satellite connection (usually
little or no echo but very high latency, making conversation frustrating).

The acoustic coupler call would fail if you got the wrong kind of
connection, so we'd usually wait until the middle for the night to make
it more likely we'd get a successful call.

Ah fond memories of the days when I could stay up till 3am and still
function the next day :-)

Alex.

On 23/12/2021 00:41, Martin Koob via use-livecode wrote:
I must be in the really ancient fogey range.

I remember 1200 baud modems. In the late ’80s a teacher at our high school in Wawa, Ontario got his hands on one. It was the size of an air fryer. Our computer club at the school hooked it up to a Commodore PET 2001 and tried to connect to Compuserve. Long waits listening to modem squeals but we never managed to get connected then. We were in Wawa which is on the north shore of Lake Superior so maybe the phone connection was not good enough. Here is the state of the art then, http://www.technofileonline.com/texts/2400modem88.html <http://www.technofileonline.com/texts/2400modem88.html>

I also remember my Apple GeoPort modem with my Mac Quadra 660AV I think. https://apple.fandom.com/wiki/GeoPort <https://apple.fandom.com/wiki/GeoPort>

 From the above article here are GeoPort speeds.
GeoPort Telecom Adapter M1694LL/B - 14.4 kilobaud <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/baud> (kbps) GeoPort Telecom Adapter (II) M2117LL/A - 28.8 kilobaud <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/baud> (kbps) GeoPort Telecom Adapter II M5438LL/A - 33.6 kilobaud <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/baud> (kbps)

Martin


On Dec 22, 2021, at 4:02 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

I just downloaded both the Mac and Win32 simultaneously via the download page in about a minute. Using “SpeedTest”, I get 110Mb/sec.

<old fogey> I remember when got our first t1(1.544mb/sec) and thought we were styling ridiculous </old fogey>

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

-----Original Message-----
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of William Prothero via use-livecode
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2021 3:34 PM
To: JJS via use-livecode
Cc: William Prothero
Subject: Livecode downloads VERY slow

Folks:
When I download an update to Livecode, it takes hours. I’m wondering why. Locally, using “SpeedTest”, I get 160Mb/sec internet speeds. Could it be the livecode server that serves the updates? Just wondering.

Best,
Bill

William Prothero
waproth...@gmail.com




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